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   I wouldn t bring up vdgg as a jazz related possibility if you didn t have yes here. Probably already been suggested but what say youz?

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siLLy puPPy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Location: SF, CA, USA Status: Offline Points: 289	Post Options Post Reply Quote siLLy puPPy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: van der graaf generator Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 6:31pm
	I wouldn t bring up vdgg as a jazz related possibility if you didn t have yes here. Probably already been suggested but what say youz?

js Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Admin Group Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35348	Post Options Post Reply Quote js Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 6:52pm
	Quick comparison: Yes was the backup band for Eddie Harris' "EH in the UK" in a sense, they were already here. A lot of Yes' music was created and performed by musicians who put out high quality bona fide jazz albums on a regular basis: Bill Bruford Steve Howe Patrick Moraz On many, although not all, of Yes' albums you can hear the jazz influence, especially the early albums. The early version of Yes with Tony Kaye and Bruford had a strong RnB/jazz element, a later version with Moraz (and the album preceding his arrival) had a strong fusion element. There are plenty of later Yes albums with no jazz, RnB or fusion at all, but we generally operate on a full discography rule. Only the rock fans come here and fuss over our Jazz Related Rock section, its really a somewhat inconsequential section of the site. No for VDGG, ... but they would make a great addition for a prog rock site. And yes, Yes is listed on allaboutjazz, if you think we are going to let them beat us at anything, you are so very very wrong, bruhahahaha To all that I would add that in my years of working with fusion and RnB/jazz bands, in conversation, Yes is a rock band that has always ranked at the top for the musicians in those bands, I can't recall anyone ever mentioning vdgg at all. Edited by js - 22 Jul 2014 at 8:20pm

siLLy puPPy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Location: SF, CA, USA Status: Offline Points: 289	Post Options Post Reply Quote siLLy puPPy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 10:08pm
	Thanks for that detailed reply. I love Yes and agree that their music is complex. Didn t know the jazz connections. So VDGG having a member who can play two brass instruments simultaneously isn t jazz enough

siLLy puPPy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Location: SF, CA, USA Status: Offline Points: 289	Post Options Post Reply Quote siLLy puPPy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 10:31pm
	Also Van Der Graaf is on Allaboutjazz as well. They're beating us! http://musicians.allaboutjazz.com/vandergraafgenerator

siLLy puPPy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Location: SF, CA, USA Status: Offline Points: 289	Post Options Post Reply Quote siLLy puPPy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 10:32pm
	Also on this jazz site http://abcjazz.net.au/artist/van-der-graaf-generator

js Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Admin Group Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35348	Post Options Post Reply Quote js Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 2014 at 1:04am
	Maybe they could be added some day, but for now we're going to concentrate on the hundreds of jazz musicians we are still missing. I see they have a spot reserved on allabout, but no one has ever bothered to fill it in, still not a big interest in them from the jazz side of things. Just in terms of pure chops, I never heard vdgg play on near the same level as Yes with Bruford on drums. Two horns at once does increase your Rahsaan Roland Kirk appeal though.

siLLy puPPy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Location: SF, CA, USA Status: Offline Points: 289	Post Options Post Reply Quote siLLy puPPy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 2014 at 8:50am
	I agree. They come from more of a progressive singer songwriter angle. I hesitated in suggesting them but thought what the hey. Totally understand your decision