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Cannonball With Hat
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How many members of a jazz ensemble is your perferred number? Doesn't matter what instruments make up the group (though if you prefer a certain type of trio/quartet/etc please feel free to say so) nor does it matter what type of jazz music it is.
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js
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I like the big bands: Don Ellis, Duke Ellington, Sun Ra, Fletcher Henderson, Count Basie etc., but not too fond of that square ass stuff like Glen Miller etc.
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Ricochet
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Dectet? Right term is Peter Brotzmann Chicago Tentet.
My answer, too. Joke aside, piano trio, I guess, given Jarrett-Peacock-DeJohnnette or E.S.T. EDIT: Now that JS mentioned it, big bands would be among my least favourite. Edited by Ricochet - 14 Jun 2011 at 4:13pm |
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Matt
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Quartet for me but I do have a thing for trio's ..... sax, bass and drum trio's that is.
You get to hear them streeeeeeeeeetch out
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Freddie Freeloader
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I find jazz duos extremely interesting, the personalities of each musitian shows and the relationship between them becomes apparant.
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Prog Geo
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Trio! You know why. But I like quartets and quintets too.
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Kazuhiro
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I go to trio. It might be a little insufficient at the chance of the call and response. However, it can enjoy each musician's capability. Three keeps harmony and balance.
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triceratopsoil
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Yep, trios for me for this reason |
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idlero
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I think it's a matter of quality and not quantity
Koln Concerto is the best example |
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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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Sean Trane
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While there are interesting trios, I'm not all that in favour of them, because it's kind of too repetitive and reduces the spectrum of possibilities and doesn't allow for many variety combinations...
I find that for jazz, quintets are are the minimum if there are wind instruments (despite Coltrane's legendary quartet), but if there are two horns, than the sextet should be the ideal, because I can't see modern groups without a keyboardist or a guitarist.
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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triceratopsoil
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Okay, one shade of yellow is hell enough on our eyes. Please don't use 4.
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Freddie Freeloader
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Sean Trane
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Some jazz specialist do, when they speak of a band, indeed.
But jazz has been about individualities much more so than rock, and a lot of albums are individualities' collaboration where the names are all spelled-out on the front cover
However the numerous Johnette-Hollannd albums could've had a project/band name
When a radio plays Return To Forever, they don't mention Joe Farrell or Lenny White....
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Freddie Freeloader
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To me jazz is not about cohesive units but about the clash of personalities and the individual shining through. One can always recognise Coltrane or Miles or Monk regardless of if their name is on a CD. The same can not always be said of rock players (a lot of prog is an exception to this rule) even if you can identify the band.
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Jazz Pianist
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Sextet for me. The ideal band for me would be piano, drums, bass, guitar, a horn player and a sax player. The texture variety would be absolutely perfect to my ears, not the mention the harmony capabilities and the opportunities for fours between the two lead players.
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Sean Trane
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Exactly!! the first Nucleus line-up is really so awesome let's count Jenkins as mainly a KB man in this case)
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Jazz Pianist
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Haha I didn't think of Nucleus actually. I actually jammed out There Will Never Be Another You at a club in Birmingham the other day to this lineup and I can safely say it was one of the most energetic jams I've ever had the pleasure of being involved in! |
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Cannonball With Hat
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Interesting results thus far.
I do enjoy the larger ensembles myself. Nothing against the trios/quartets but I like alot of sound and alot of different type of sound, which you get in the larger groups.
Just for the hell of it, I voted for Duodecet, but really anything from Septet/Octet upwards in great.
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Trio is fav for me. I often think of Bill Evans when I think of the trio. Other times, when I want a wider base of sounds, I'd go maybe as high as a quintet. And sometimes only a Big Band will do.
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It depends on what mood I'm in, but generally quintet.
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