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    Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 5:27am
I did, but I was recommended to by somone from JMA.  I ( sadly ) didn't even know this great site existed!  Sure glad I'm here.
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I am from PA. I have to say I'm glad this site exists, even if it doesn't get the traffic it deserves.

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Iīm from PA too, but I wouldnīt call myself a regular here allthough Iīve been a member since the beginning. Weīve had the same issue over at MMA where almost all active members have discovered the site through PA. There are a couple of regulars who didnīt come from PA though and Iīm sure more will come in time. Itīs just patience and hard work to keep the site (both JMA and MMA) current and interesting to visitors thatīs the way forwardSmile.
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At a guess, at least a dozen of the active members?
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I'm really curious to know how many of us didn't come over from PA.
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Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:



Now, I must preface this with I haven't been around the real site for awhile (couple months) so things could definitely be different now, and forgive me if they are, but there seem to be a few rather odd incomplete discogs around. Obviously I haven't checked everyone, but the most glaring to me seems to be Davis, which last time I checked had more albums over at PA than here at JMA (which boggles frankly). Peter Brotzmann also seems to have been affected by this. Hopefully things have changed since I last explored

As for my buying habits...still filling in the holes of my jazz collection. My miles collection has come along nicely, and now working on Coltrane (moreso than others). Still got alot of the great ones out there to listen to, but I fear it will be slow going for me, so who knows when I'll get to the new stuff. Too much music, too little time.


Yeah, the discogs between the sites do look a bit different now, you'll notice gaps in either, of course, but it's not imbalanced now I reckon

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^ I'm glad to hear you want to help with the discogs, feel free to add any missing albums you want.
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I too ventured over from the depths of PA. I have always enjoyed jazz but I haven't really explored much beyond a year or two ago. Part of it was there were very few jazz outlets for information (at least that I found/found good/easy to use/etc) on various artists and works and all that. So there is plenty of potential good for me coming from this website.

As for the fusion slant...I agree with mostly everyone else...over time it should be corrected, at least to some degree. I'll admit, it does kind of look funny to have the top 5 rated albums be 4 Davis and 1 Hancock (at least thats what it was last time I checked, which has been a couple of days) but beyond that I'm not too concerned about it. As a tangent...personally I'm more concerned with the lack of complete discogs I've found around the site. Now, I must preface this with I haven't been around the real site for awhile (couple months) so things could definitely be different now, and forgive me if they are, but there seem to be a few rather odd incomplete discogs around. Obviously I haven't checked everyone, but the most glaring to me seems to be Davis, which last time I checked had more albums over at PA than here at JMA (which boggles frankly). Peter Brotzmann also seems to have been affected by this. Hopefully things have changed since I last explored, but IMO this looks more silly (or unprofessional or however you want to state it) than a fusion slant. Maybe it's just me though, and maybe it's not an issue anymore, but just something that came to my mind when I thought about this thread. But I digress.... Anyway...I guess your question garners the question...how much is this being advertised in the non PA world? Do others outside seem interested in this sort of site? Just curious of course.

As for my buying habits...still filling in the holes of my jazz collection. My miles collection has come along nicely, and now working on Coltrane (moreso than others). Still got alot of the great ones out there to listen to, but I fear it will be slow going for me, so who knows when I'll get to the new stuff. Too much music, too little time.
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I originally made a forum post on PA saying that there should be a kind of Jazz Archives and so some people told me they were going to work on the project. When the site launched I received an e-mail from Progarchives saying I would be interested because I liked jazz rock/fusion and Canterbury Scene. I guess I would consider myself as comig over from PA.
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I'm pretty certain I was looking into some jazz fusion bands when I discovered PA and decided to join.  Naturally, I learned of this site from kicking around on there and Metal Music Archives and got jazzed about it.
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I too came over from PA, but over there I did not review much, my expertise, if you can call it that, is more in the modern jazz realm, fusion as well, I was always uncomfortable with jazz reviews over there, But over time, I felt PA was really more of a Progressive music site, not just rock, so accepting that in my own mind let me get over any conflicts in the genres being reviewed or any perceived bias of a reviewer,  I would have to say at PA, any music that is not considered mainstream or geared for mainstream consumption is PA worthy,  here at JMA, anything jazz related is fine.

I will freely admit, I don't listen to hardly any new music, an exception was that Mastodon The Hunter album, I went through a phase of daily listening to that for weeks on end, that hadn't happened, that type of obsession I mean with a rock album since I was a15 year old kid, hearing Gun's N' Roses Appetite for Destruction for the first time, who knows why certain albums grab you, Miles Davis grabbed me back in '99, and I just fell in love with modern jazz, but I am a music schizophrenic, I will listen to just about anything,

I discover new artists and albums on a weekly basis, most old, some new, perfect example, is yesterday I heard 2 Les Mccann albums for the first time, Layers and Invitation to Openness,  both records nearly 40 years old, but new to me, and fantastic progressive jazz funk at that.  And speaking of PA, I was turned on to Jaga Jazzist there, one of my favorite new artists.
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I'm from PA, and I love the half star option that PA does not offer.
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I would just like to say off the bat that I don't know what the hell PA is and would never ever ever ever hang out there. Tongue

That site does get a little tiresome at times and am glad to have this site as a supplement.  I was more active in the beginning here but these days my basic tack is when I have the impulse to type away on non music subjects I take it up over there and stay focused on music over here.

If there's something that fits for both sites for a review I haven't tailored it for one site over the other.  I do try to make reviews universal even before this site was born. 

One of the things I think this site really got right was structuring it not to make second class citizens of some of the artists.  I think doing that with prog related and proto-prog has led to many a pointless discussion.  I find an interesting irony that I can review some albums here by artists that are worthy of being on that site, but some folks are a bit too bullheaded about letting on the riff raff.  There is often a bit of an unseemly purity obsession.  Ah well.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 12:59pm

Love my Jazz more so than my Prog which John noticed and invited me over to here. Like a duck to water, I was in my element and when one checks my reviews total and effort, JMA wins by a mile.

I do think we are a little heavy with Fusion etc reviews but I do notice quite a few are starting to get away from them and having a crack at some other stuff.
 
I have been waiting for a Latino who knows his Salsa and Son to join. Trouble is by the time he does I probaly will have finished adding all those albums for Afro Cuban artists.Wink
 
 
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The advantage of sites like PA and JMA is that when reading a review, by looking at the reviewer's ratings list you know if you have the same tastes like him or not. Even if I read most of John Fordham's(  my ratings come pretty close to his in many cases) reviews, I don't have the historical information about his ratings available.
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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Originally posted by idlero idlero wrote:

As I see it, it doesn't matter if reviews are writtem by professional reviewers or amateurs, what I am looking in PA and hopefully will find in JMA in the future is information about artists and  albums(mostly new but old ones too).
I read jazz reviews on at least 2-3 sites(even the freejazz blogspot where probably less than 1% of the recommendations are suited to my tastes) , and I do it for finding information and opinions on new releases. Even if the 'professional' reviews  are seldom critical they still are useful for my purposes and many of my jazz 'discoveries' were made after reading the albums reviews.
 
actually I find professional writers/reviewers' reviews very uninformative in the specialized mags' dedicated review sections....  but the readership seem to base their choices much more obn those often quickly-scribbled reviews from prof writers mųuch more than on amateur fellow listeners (at least in jazz circles) on web sites....  hopefully JMA and AAJ will fix that...
 
 
 
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Sean, you haven't copy & pasted reviews, have you? Naughty naughty! Wink

But seriously, I wish I'd reviewed more at PA so I could copy some across (adjusting the wording of course) because I have only reviewed 70 or so albums since I joined, and it doesn't feel like enough!

Sean, you;ve got 1088 Reviews/Ratings, John is on nearly 300 Reviews/Ratings and Slava is over 1300. Massive!
 
 
Yeah, my numbers may look impressive here, but JR/F was the genre I reviewed most on PA (above 400), so the copy-pasting did a lot to increase my number in JMA.... However, I must say that I have't adapted the reviews to fit JMAEmbarrassed....
 
Originally I had done so to fill in a max reviews to make the JMA site look not so empty ........  a bit as M@X had asked me to do as in PA in early 2004.... back then I had written a bunch of one or two-liners (something like 700 in two months), none of which have survived (well maybe the odd-forgotten one), since the vast majority have been re-written over the years....
 
My bad for not adaptingEmbarrassed my reviews, but I just don't have time to fix it (much busier now than back then)
 
 
 
And in PA,I have very few ratings only (less than 50 in above 3000), but here, I believe I must have a good 50 to 40% of ratings only)
 
 
 
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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As I see it, it doesn't matter if reviews are writtem by professional reviewers or amateurs, what I am looking in PA and hopefully will find in JMA in the future is information about artists and  albums(mostly new but old ones too).
I read jazz reviews on at least 2-3 sites(even the freejazz blogspot where probably less than 1% of the recommendations are suited to my tastes) , and I do it for finding information and opinions on new releases. Even if the 'professional' reviews  are seldom critical they still are useful for my purposes and many of my jazz 'discoveries' were made after reading the albums reviews.
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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Sean, you haven't copy & pasted reviews, have you? Naughty naughty! Wink

But seriously, I wish I'd reviewed more at PA so I could copy some across (adjusting the wording of course) because I have only reviewed 70 or so albums since I joined, and it doesn't feel like enough!

Sean, you;ve got 1088 Reviews/Ratings, John is on nearly 300 Reviews/Ratings and Slava is over 1300. Massive!
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