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    Posted: 02 Jul 2013 at 9:31pm
I don't think his trio recorded an album yet, although a second album with Malaby, Tom Rainy and Anthony Rayonis in the works from what I heard ^^

Now i've got to contribute actual and non-promotional posts to the board :3
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Cool stuff Chozal. I'll listen to vids when I have the time, but thanks for posting.
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Thanks for all that. 
If Richard Bonnet has any albums out under his name, we would be glad to add him to the site, let us know.
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Hey there :3 sorry to revive an old thread, but I saw it in the upper ones and thought my guitar teacher could fit the bill. He made an album with Tony Malaby recently entitled Haptein.

Here are video excerpts from a Parisian gig they did :






Hope you'll like it :3
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Just to keep this tread up to date, probably the best thing I've found in this realm is Charles Gayle, specifically the album Look Up. The first and last tracks are absolute gods of free jazz and really catures that raw, visceral intensity that I love. (Not that the other tracks are slouches of course)
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^ Thanks for that!

I've actually heard of that station before and listen regularly (or at least, as regularly as I listen to the radio). Quite enjoy the jazz and avant blocks they have.
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I see there are some really great ideas for free jazz. www.wkcr.org plays a lot of free, intense on their jazz segments, usually Tuesdays at 6 p.m. Thursdays at noon. I'm listening now and there playing some hard stuff. I have Coltrane's Ascension which is an intense one for me. Also his Interstellar Space is out there.
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Also, whoever suggested The Thing probably got the closest to what I was looking for. Specifically thinking of their collab with Otomo Y (Shinjuku Crawl). Part One of that song is heavenly (a brutal heaven). Admittedly, other The Thing albums don't scratch this specific itch, but the ones I've heard at least are excellent.

Also, Ayler's Slug's Saloon is absolutely fantastic. Unfortunately, the recording quality is average at best (and fluctuates throughout) and even in its best moments the drums are horribly under recorded. If that existed in pristine (or at least 'fairly good) condition that would be a holy grail document IMHO.

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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:


Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by js js wrote:

Last Exit and certain albums by Sonny Sharrock.


Ahh yes... Last Exit. I do have an album by them (Headfirst Into The Flames) I should dig it out and give it another listen. Thanks for the tip.

Get the Last Exit s/t.  That's definitely among the most brutal albums I own.
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I've heard Iron Gate and it was surprising not the clusterfuck of sound I was expecting. Is S/t more similar to MG or similar things?

And I haven't. I'll look for it.
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Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by js js wrote:

Last Exit and certain albums by Sonny Sharrock.


Ahh yes... Last Exit. I do have an album by them (Headfirst Into The Flames) I should dig it out and give it another listen. Thanks for the tip.

Get the Last Exit s/t.  That's definitely among the most brutal albums I own.

Ever hear Brotzmann's Clarinet Project "Berlin Djungle"?  Zorn plays on it.
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The Thing have lot of different collaboration releases, one more interesting one (if expensive, double vinyl release only) is their album "Metal!" with English bassist Barry Guy (album's title says all)



http://soundcloud.com/quinteroax/the-thing-with-barry-guy-ride

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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:


and yes - if you want really destructive free attack - go for Japanese artists LOL
Sax Ruins are soft (and more jazzier form) :
Otomo Yoshihide is more radical



Ahh yeah...I have that Sax Ruins album actually and its quite excellent. I guess I always put it more in a rock context than a jazz one. But I'll give it a listen tonight still.

I'll look into that other one (as I quite enjoy all the players), thanks.

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Originally posted by pinknote pinknote wrote:

Alan Silva and the Celestrial Communication Orchestra - Luna Surface
Dave Burrell - Echo

Maybe what you are looking for?...  or maybe not...

Silva's debut is a odd 28 minutes cacophony from great line-up - and I like it, but comparing with it "Machine Gun" is well-organized and structured high-energy album LOL
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and yes - if you want really destructive free attack - go for Japanese artists LOL

Sax Ruins are soft (and more jazzier form) :


Otomo Yoshihide is more radical



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I'll admit...the idea of free slide whistle does intrigue me.

But yes...finding samples from Black Woman and MPB I don't think they are my thing. I'll listen to songs at some point, but the snippets seemed not what I was looking for. And yes...the voice was no help. I'm not a fan of vocals in jazz...and these particular ones seemed to overshadow the music quite a bit.

I'll see if I can find something from STR.
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I think the make or break on some of those early albums is whether or not you like the vocal improvisations, also I believe there is an album where Sharrock plays "free" slide whistle for a good part of the album, as opposed to guitar.
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just my two cents (I believe Sharrock album's evaluation strongly depends on personal taste):

His debut is a bomb - avant-garde jazz of late 60s with screaming guitar, in some sense "Machine Gun" analog in States. Second - "Monkey-Pockey-Boo" - is very similar, but a bit secondary (as if "Machine Gun" was never released "Nipples" would be a masterpiece)."Paradise" is a weak point."Dance With Me Montana" is a change of direction and really strong album, just in different style. Instead of AG jazz of three previous albums you get here mix of jazz-rock,heavy funk and AG jazz. If you like this better, probably "Seize The Rainbow" is the best choice. His last album "Ask The Ages" is probably best combination of his all styles in one, in some sense return to roots (but you can't get back this late 60s atmosphere)


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Oohh yes. I forgot about Pat's Song X. I'll have to see if I can find my copy.
 
Any specific SS albums you can recommend??
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I have limited knowledge, and you probably know these already, but Coltrane's late work, Sun Ra's stuff, Pat Metheny "X", and Sonny Sharrock fall into that category.
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Ahh...great snobb. I'll check those out. Thanks


Originally posted by pinknote pinknote wrote:

Alan Silva and the Celestrial Communication Orchestra - Luna SurfaceDave Burrell - EchoMaybe what you are looking for?...  or maybe not...
   

I'll investigate these, thanks.
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