Bitches Brew and direct derivates/offshoots

Ian Carr's Nucleus was heavily influenced by Bitches Brew, almost to the point of plagiarizing. Labyrinth comes to mind. 

Sean Trane wrote: Logan wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Miles' BB album was responsible for a few offshoot that can be directly attibuted to it Indeed, if Herbie wasn't on the BB sessions, it's because he was on his honeymoon, but he clearly belongs to the BB legacy, and via Julian Priester, the link is solid. My favrourite on the list is Mwandishi, love the album. I don't really get the Julain Priester reference, though.  Priester released one of my absolute favorite albums in JRF (anyone who knows me reasonably at all from PA will know how much I love Love, Love), but he wasn't on Bitches Brew that I know of.  I think you meant to say the Mwandishi group player, Bennie Maupin who is on Bitches Brew.  The Jewel in the Lotus is a wonderful album.  Another few albums I would have liked to see on this list that I think wonderful from Bitches Brew alumni are Wyane Shorter's fantastic Odyssey of Iska, Lenny White's Venusian Summer (the suite is so good), and Larry Young's Lawrence of Newark -- I could go on cause the BB alumni are amazing. When i just saw the title, I thought you mean more infleunced by BB, in which case Donald Byrd's Electric Byrd is a fantastic album.     You're entirely right!!   It's Maupin I meant to speak of   -----------------   As for Byrd's Kofi and Ethiopian Knights, they're both excellent albums, but not really directly related to BB     I'll check out Lenny White Venusian Summer ASAP, though!!

Not sure about Kofi and Ethipian Knights, and I know that Electric Byrd is not an off-shoot, and so not applicable to the poll, but I mean that that Byrd album was inspired by Bitches Brew and so until I read the first post, it is one I was expecting to see on the list.

Great album anyway.

js wrote: ^ That's good, because you've already rated it.

Edited by Sean Trane - 31 Oct 2011 at 4:48am

Logan wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Miles' BB album was responsible for a few offshoot that can be directly attibuted to it Indeed, if Herbie wasn't on the BB sessions, it's because he was on his honeymoon, but he clearly belongs to the BB legacy, and via Julian Priester, the link is solid. My favrourite on the list is Mwandishi, love the album. I don't really get the Julain Priester reference, though.  Priester released one of my absolute favorite albums in JRF (anyone who knows me reasonably at all from PA will know how much I love Love, Love), but he wasn't on Bitches Brew that I know of.  I think you meant to say the Mwandishi group player, Bennie Maupin who is on Bitches Brew.  The Jewel in the Lotus is a wonderful album.  Another few albums I would have liked to see on this list that I think wonderful from Bitches Brew alumni are Wyane Shorter's fantastic Odyssey of Iska, Lenny White's Venusian Summer (the suite is so good), and Larry Young's Lawrence of Newark -- I could go on cause the BB alumni are amazing. When i just saw the title, I thought you mean more infleunced by BB, in which case Donald Byrd's Electric Byrd is a fantastic album.

Sean Trane wrote: Miles' BB album was responsible for a few offshoot that can be directly attibuted to it Indeed, if Herbie wasn't on the BB sessions, it's because he was on his honeymoon, but he clearly belongs to the BB legacy, and via Julian Priester, the link is solid.

My favrourite on the list is Mwandishi, love the album.

I don't really get the Julain Priester reference, though.  Priester released one of my absolute favorite albums in JRF (anyone who knows me reasonably at all from PA will know how much I love Love, Love), but he wasn't on Bitches Brew that I know of.  I think you meant to say the Mwandishi group player, Bennie Maupin who is on Bitches Brew.  The Jewel in the Lotus is a wonderful album.  Another few albums I would have liked to see on this list that I think wonderful from Bitches Brew alumni are Wyane Shorter's fantastic Odyssey of Iska, Lenny White's Venusian Summer (the suite is so good), and Larry Young's Lawrence of Newark -- I could go on cause the BB alumni are amazing.

When i just saw the title, I thought you mean more infleunced by BB, in which case Donald Byrd's Electric Byrd is a fantastic album.

Some might suggest MO is an off-shoot of Lifetime and Miles borrowed McLaughlin..................

and the first RTF album is more about Corea's Latin jazz upbringing.

RTF

Out of these, Mahavishnu without hesitation.

Mahavishnu Orchestra, no doubt about it!

Ricochet wrote: Musically, I can't think of RTF as a BB derivate. So I'll vote for WR instead.

True, but it is an offshot.