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Stopbyforjazz
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Any fans of-Vocal Conspiracy very nice fusion group,also-Pharoh Sanders-Elevation is cool also.
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Frederic_Alderon
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Garry Barton and the Flock are also quite nice
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Catcher10
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Brew takes awhile to get into....its not the easiest listen of Miles stuff........try Nefertiti, to me its more straight up Miles with Herbie Hancock on piano and Wayne Shorter on sax. I enjoy side 2 more than 1, Nefertiti the track is a bit experimental and I think would have fit nicely on Bitches Brew.
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My jazz collection....a work in progress.
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darkshade
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woops wrong section.
ANyway I recommend A Tribute To Jack Johnson Edited by darkshade - 08 Sep 2011 at 9:25pm |
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dreadpirateroberts
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Yeah, I'm with ya there, very important contribution |
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dreadpirateroberts
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Hey!
I'd like to 2nd In a Silent Way' a more temperate album, but vital in Mile's development. More jazz than fusion, but fascinating nonetheless. Mantra-like. Stomu's Go, you might like, though coming from PA, I'm guessin' you've heard of him? And as a MV Orcestra fan, you'd probably already heard the Santana/MHVO duet Love Devotion and Surrender? |
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darkprinceofjazz
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To be a fan of the entirety of Bitches Brew, One probably does need a taste for the Avant Garde, Spanish Key and Miles Runs the Voodoo Down, are more straight ahead, especially with the funk overtones, But the title track, and to a lesser extent Pharaoh's Dance, require some serious patience to reveal themselves. The complete sessions also have the same mix of styles. If a rockier or funkier thing is what you want, Jack Johnson and The Cellar Door Sessions would be a good bet, Dark Magus is a mind blowing assault of Hard Funk That will pound you into submission, The Japanese Vinyl issue of Dark Magus is one of my personal treasures, It still fires me up hearing it. For me In a Silent Way is Probably the best place to start, hardly any dissonance at all, Just a pleasant atmospheric record, with just enough of a groove to satisfy. a great Meditation music.
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darkshade
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oh hey JJ. Still gotta go to VV soon. Lots of music coming out in June I'm looking to pick up
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dwill123
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Hepcat, I'd like to suggest giving a listen to Larry Coryell & The Eleventh House. Larry Coryell, great guitarist, Randy Brecker, excellent trumpet & Alphonse Mouzon, a very underrated drummer. Their first album is very good "Introducing the Eleventh House with Larry Coryell".
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The Hepcat
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ha!
Thanks again y'all, I will report back in once I've digested all this. |
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My fav jazz artist is Charlie. He hangs out in the park with his sax and is a character out of the 1940's. He's not great, but is improving each day and damn he has heart. That's what its all about!
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Sean Trane
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Now JJ , I know
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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The Hepcat
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There's a hepcat on PA?
Damn it!! Like always....nothing is ever ever original Well with one post at least I know I did think of it and it wasn't lurking sub consciously. I was gunna say check the newbie section...but I am JJ Lehto. I also have quite a bit of jazz to try out! Thanks again everyone. |
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My fav jazz artist is Charlie. He hangs out in the park with his sax and is a character out of the 1940's. He's not great, but is improving each day and damn he has heart. That's what its all about!
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Sean Trane
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What's your username, then??
the only brian i remember there is Garion81... sorry, if I should remember you!
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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The Hepcat
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That yellow text hurts on this white background Oh trust me, you have seen me on Prog Archives....I have over 26,000 posts and have been hanging there for 5 years now I don't know, just a weird feeling I have about it.
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My fav jazz artist is Charlie. He hangs out in the park with his sax and is a character out of the 1940's. He's not great, but is improving each day and damn he has heart. That's what its all about!
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Abraxas
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In a Silent Way and Filles De Kilimanjaro might show you the jazzier side of Bitches Brew rawness.
If you want pure rock from Miles, get A Tribute to Jack Johnson, 'Right Off' is 25 minutes of rock jazz (not fusion) powder. Edited by Abraxas - 03 Jun 2011 at 3:34pm |
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triceratopsoil
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Briantrane have you listened to any of Herbie Hancock's fusion?
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darkshade
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Bitches Brew clicked for me a few months or so ago, and I got the album back in 2006
Try Jaco's self-titled solo album; a classic in the fusion genre and one of my favorites |
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I also like initial WR. The directionality of the band might changed because Joe Zawinul started including the element of Funk in WR. Therefore, it is partial where Miroslazv Vitous did not have the element of Funk. Secession or the dismissal or the truth is not understood. However, it might have been connected with "Mysterious Traveller" as a result.
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Sean Trane
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Indeed a good suggestion, but Weather report's discography can be divided along their bass players
First the Miroslazv Vitous years (fromthe debut until Sweetnighter) from 71 until 73 >>> very much like Herbie Hancock's Mwandishi period, but both are a direct product of Miles BB album >> this is definitely my fave era of theirs
Then there is the Alphonso Johnson years: 74-75 with Mysterious Traveller and Tale spinnin >> I find this period more straightforward: the group settlles in a groove and solo away >> I generalize of course, but that's the general picture
Then youhave the Jazco Pastorius years: 76 until roughly 1981 or 82 (noy sure >> generally the most commercial and popular era with Black Market and Heavy Weather as best sellers >> definitely not my fave era, partly because if Pastorius is a good bassist, he's also an insufferable show off and overdoes almost systematically everything he did in that band. Musically the band is also all over the map and is quite unfocused: from standard jazz (like Birdland), to ethnic/world fusion... I find the albums of that era generally a mixed-bag or soup. It doesn't help that Zawinul's choice of synth are often disputable (Mr Gone is riddled with iffy synth sounds, and Wayne Shoreter is almost absent to save it from sinking.
Finally, the Victor Bailey years >>> but that was the 80's.... and doesn't that say it all???
Edited by Sean Trane - 03 Jun 2011 at 1:48am |
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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