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Sean Trane 
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 Topic: "Spiritual jazz"Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 4:08am |
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Question about "spiritual jazz"...
 When was the term coined??  I've got no memory of hearing that "genre" in the 70's or 80's when discovering 60's & 70's albums (from ALS to Pharoah or Sony Liston Smyth or from Alice, to Tyner or Mwandishi).... I mean, these were coined "New Thing, Modal jazz, Soul Jazz or Jazz-funk", back then, right? I could be totally wrong, but as far as I can tell, this is a new "genre" imagined in the last decade (or so) to make a filiation between those 60/70's albums and the Kamasi/Shabaka generation. this "spiritual jazz" tag kind of speaks for itself (though I haven't seen it in JMA's DB), but when did it appear? Edited by Sean Trane - 28 Aug 2017 at 4:19am |
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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js
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Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 6:02am |
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I think I first started hearing that term about 10 or 15 years ago, and I was listening to that kind of music since about 40 years ago.
Judging from the magazines I read from both the UK and US, I think the term is more popular in the UK, but US publications will use the term sometimes too.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 7:39am |
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that's what I thought, thanks
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Rexorcist
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Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 1:27pm |
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The fact that no one has posted here for six years is depressing. I'm currently on a spiritual jazz kick, notably working through a bunch of Pharoah Sanders and a little McCoy Tyner on the side. Karma is currently my number 1 spiritual album.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 1:31pm |
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neo-spiritual jazz had it's popularity peak in London few years ago, and is still really popular around UK
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Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 1:45pm |
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Then I need to get to some spiritual stuff from the last ten years. Thanks for letting me know.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 4:35pm |
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This fairly recent album by Willie Morris has a spiritual jazz influence:
https://williemorrisjazz.bandcamp.com/album/conversation-starter Edited by js - 15 Jan 2024 at 4:36pm |
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Posted: 16 Jan 2024 at 7:15am |
let say this |
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Posted: 16 Jan 2024 at 1:06pm |
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or this?
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Rexorcist
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Posted: 16 Jan 2024 at 4:40pm |
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I'm gonna get through the EP's of Maisha before heading off to Willie Morris. I posted a short review of that Maisha album, though. Thanks for telling me about them. Btw, I noticed that Willie has a second album for this year on JMA, "Attentive Listening," but I can't find any other source for it. Is it an upcoming album?
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Posted: 16 Jan 2024 at 6:13pm |
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Thats probably an album that has not come out yet, but has been announced. He doesn't exactly play spiritual jazz, but you can hear the influence on some tracks.
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Posted: 17 Jan 2024 at 3:03pm |
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Since I am a Christian, I mostly only listen to jazz made by Christians. These include Joey DeFrancesco, Brian Blade, Jimmy Greene, McCoy Tyner, Cyrus Chestnut, Kenny Garrett, and Eric Reed. Peace and goodwill.
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Posted: 17 Jan 2024 at 4:31pm |
Don't forget Duke Ellington who probably wrote more Christian jazz pieces than anyone. |
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Posted: 26 Jan 2024 at 2:48am |
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Thanks for information
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Posted: 06 Feb 2024 at 4:49pm |
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I just got through the first two Pyramids albums. I need some
afro-jazz in the mix, and I've only heard one other album of it so far. Now I'm starting the 2020 album Shaman.
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Posted: 20 Aug 2024 at 4:16pm |
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I think it's a relatively recent term for artists influenced by the late 60's / early 70's Free Jazz from John and Alice Coltrane and others. I think I first heard it used to refer to Kamesi and some of the West Coast Get Down scene... I find stuff often labelled "Kozmigroov" to be up this particular alley, as well.
I dig it.
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Posted: 20 Aug 2024 at 4:38pm |
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The return of 'spiritual jazz' was a surprise to me, I always thought that was entirely a 60s-70s sort of thing, but its good it made a comeback and even better that today's young people get into it.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 9:33am |
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Hi,
I enjoy and have listened to a lot of "spiritual" stuff that was either experimental, or something else. However, there is a serious issue here ... way too many folks will create a cover for the album with this and that, or name the pieces with this or that, and folks will think it is "spiritual", and there is nothing in the music that suggests this, though in rock music, LYRICS, supposedly tell you what it all means ... one of the grand illusions of rock music, since all of us see different things, and interpret them differently ... but rock music loves its idealistic everything! To me, a lot of "serious music" is very spiritual, and I am not a fan of the rock song thing with lyrics to convince you that they are about this or that ... a fake proposition that you would know and understand if you had spent time on a stage and were aware of the Friday Night audiences, or the Saturday Night audiences, or the Sunday Matinee audiences! I think a lot of people undertook to mention, or play, for their spiritual inspiration, and I tend to think that in many ways, this is illusory, because it could be anyone's name on any other piece, or person, and we would think it was fine, and was "spiritual" .... In some ways, jazz, for me, is much more spiritual, since it relies on the music itself, rather than lyrics to tell you that you can not interpret music and have to be told what it is about!
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Posted: 9 hours 12 minutes ago at 12:48am |
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It doesn’t take a genius to work out why spiritual jazz is on the rise again. After all, it was music that first arose during an era of global tumult, an amplification of Black artistry and expression at a time of fierce struggle to be seen and heard. It put an emphasis on uncompromising intellectual exploration and a search for meaning at a time when the ubiquity of mass media and pop culture seemed to be flattening those very things out. Above all, it was about flesh-and-blood community—the kind of connection that can only take place when like minds that are tuned into the same ideas and ethos are interacting in the same room.
Spiritual jazz was always an approach, not a sound—and even that approach was multifarious. It could—and can—be either dreamy and meditative or a free torrent of cacophony. It has always been broad in reach, incorporating European, Asian, African, and Latin American instruments and methods. It can include poetry, drama, costume, ritual, and more, and its “spirituality” could lean heavily to Hindu, Christian, Yoruba, or countless other traditions. It can be a vehicle for deep profundity, complete tomfoolery, or both at once. more here: http://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/new-spiritual-jazz-album-guide |
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