Jazz Speaker /System Suggestions?

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   I am redoing  a room to listen to my vinyl. The system currently consists of a Pioneer SX101o Receiver and a pair of Pioneer 99A Speakers. My TT is a Project with a glass platter and speedbox.

I have another system I was thinking about using. NAD C352 amp, Monitor Audio Silver BookShelf Speakers and a MA powered Sub.  Lector CDPO 6T CD Player, Project TT with a Musical Surroundings Phonomena II+ Phono Preamp

Pioneer is a 1977 monster 110 Watt and the NAD is 2009 80 Watt. The main issue is the speakers. The Pioneer's sound is dull and lacks tonality on brass selections. The Monitor Audios are crisp and I can adjust the bottom end with the sub.

My question, do I stay with the vintage Pioneer SX1010 that is from an all analog era and replace the 99's or go the NAD newer route?

I listen to 50-early 70's jazz on Vinyl and get some newer releases on CD if there is no record.

Thank You!

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Peaceful World 33/3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Newbie Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peaceful World 33/3 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Jazz Speaker /System Suggestions? Posted: 09 May 2015 at 7:20am
	I am redoing a room to listen to my vinyl. The system currently consists of a Pioneer SX101o Receiver and a pair of Pioneer 99A Speakers. My TT is a Project with a glass platter and speedbox. I have another system I was thinking about using. NAD C352 amp, Monitor Audio Silver BookShelf Speakers and a MA powered Sub. Lector CDPO 6T CD Player, Project TT with a Musical Surroundings Phonomena II+ Phono Preamp Pioneer is a 1977 monster 110 Watt and the NAD is 2009 80 Watt. The main issue is the speakers. The Pioneer's sound is dull and lacks tonality on brass selections. The Monitor Audios are crisp and I can adjust the bottom end with the sub. My question, do I stay with the vintage Pioneer SX1010 that is from an all analog era and replace the 99's or go the NAD newer route? I listen to 50-early 70's jazz on Vinyl and get some newer releases on CD if there is no record. Thank You!

js Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Admin Group Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35204	Post Options Post Reply Quote js Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2015 at 7:36am
	If you are listening to old vinyl, I would keep the analog record player, I'm no expert at all, but I do prefer any older acoustic music on vinyl. I have several record players, the prize one being one of those heavy weighted technics that the DJs love. I like record players, and I have a large record collection, but I'm not particularly educated when it comes to technical audio information. I am fairly knowledgeable when it comes to record collecting, and I used to trade records a lot.

snobb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Admin Group Site Admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Vilnius Status: Offline Points: 29578	Post Options Post Reply Quote snobb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2015 at 10:01am
	From my experience, Pioneer speakers (of any size) fit best for listening of dynamic mid-frequencies music,as pop,some rock,etc. Their sound is cold and lifeless,especially on highs and lows, and very flat as well (generally, as any other's Japanese mass-production speakers'). Have no idea how MA sound though. After using some more modern devices (Technics,Sony,etc) I returned back to old Harman Kardon PM 645 amplifier (still Japan-made, not Chinese as they do now) in combination with Harman Kardon player (more modern though). The speakers I use for decade or more are Danish Jamo, nice black wooden boxes with warm and soft sound (absolutely prefer European sound-speakers, almost any make is much better of similar Japanese by head, just they are pricey)

Peaceful World 33/3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Newbie Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peaceful World 33/3 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2015 at 10:29pm
	Monitor Audio Silver are from England. Mine are 2009 before they embraced Home Theatre. I love them and will sell the Pioneer 99A's on the Bay as there is a demand for them. Too me they are bloated and rather dull. http://www.trustedreviews.com/monitor-audio-silver-6av12-review

snobb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Admin Group Site Admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Vilnius Status: Offline Points: 29578	Post Options Post Reply Quote snobb Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2015 at 2:40am
	^ from the above review it looks MA speakers are good choice, British manufacturers knew how to produce good acoustic systems still from earlier Tannoy and Polk Audio makes.

brewski Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Newbie Joined: 19 May 2015 Location: Cincinnati, OH Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote brewski Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2015 at 9:54pm
	I am punching My vinyls via pioneer turntable with a Pyle preamp,then to an Onkyo receiver,then to a Bose surround speaker system with a Yamaha sub woofer,It sounds great,You can email me for catalog numbers.

diamondblack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 21 Feb 2016 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 102	Post Options Post Reply Quote diamondblack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 2016 at 5:06am
	Well, if one wants to take jazz playback to almost realistic level, should consider Marten speakers. They are even named after Jazz player. www.marten.se

Steve11 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Newbie Joined: 28 May 2024 Location: Vero Beach Fl. Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve11 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 2024 at 9:18am
	Hello, my system and ears are very jazz oriented so I appreciate your using the Monitor Audio speakers as well as the Project turntable. The only suggestion I would have is, if the tt is using the Ortofon Red it came with, I suggest a change to the Audio Technica VM540ML. For about $270 you get a cartridge with a Shibata type microline needle which, for jazz is really more expressive, because it plays more of the groove. So, the rhythm of the bass and symbol are more clear. However, because the Project table has a one piece arm with no removable headshell, it is obviously harder to change cartridge. So be careful with the thinner connecting wires. I'm using a Fluance tt which came with the Ortofon Blue, and having replaced it with the VM540, the jazz, especially small combos/trios-Oscar Peterson or like Bill Evans, are more expressive and clear. Edited by Steve11 - 30 May 2024 at 9:20am