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Atavachron ![]() JMA Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz Reviewer Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 189 |
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The continuous patterns, inspired urgency, stamina and power, it's a
hardbop masterpiece, there's little doubt. This was the first LP with
all-original Coltrane tracks, and evidently the music is a rite of
passage for jazz players to improvise over. The alternate takes are
good too but I think John chose wisely for the final cut.
Discuss, and also: what's your favorite Coltrane release and why?-- and I'm looking for your personal fave, not necessarily the one you think was best produced or most important. Live albums count. |
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35658 |
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My favorite Coltrane is the early modal stuff like India and also some of the all-out free jazz with large ensembles he did too. The chaotic orchestral sounds of his large ensemble free jazz pieces was a sound hardly heard much before, it was fascinating even if you didn't totally get it, I used to have 'OM' on 8 track tape to listen to while cruising, ha ha ha.
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Atavachron ![]() JMA Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz Reviewer Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 189 |
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Om is something, it's out there.. if you can enjoy Om I'd say you can enjoy almost anything (Brötzmann anyone?
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35658 |
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Its best on 8-track
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Kazuhiro ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Tokyo, Japan Status: Offline Points: 3774 |
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John Coltrane after it had resigned from the Miles Davis group might have been announced continuing a really overwhelming album. I am and there are some personally favorite albums. It is difficult for me to limit it of course. However, "Live At the Village Vanguard Again"and "Expression"Overwhelming. I feel these performances block his essence and evolution. His regular group in the 60's might be steady. However, his work of later years feels something transcended to some degree. |
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Logan ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 48 |
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Call me common, but A Love Supreme is a particular favourite Coltrane album, though I love Ascension and Giant Steps too.
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35658 |
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I'd call you Greg, or maybe Logan, but never common.
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jammun ![]() JMA Jazz Reviewer ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Probably not a popular choice, but I always liked the Ballads album. (I realize it may be an unintentional early predecessor to the smooth jazz of the 70's and beyond.)
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35658 |
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looks like you'll be the first person kicked off the site
![]() ![]() just kidding, i love a good jazz ballad Edited by EZ Money - 29 Jan 2011 at 7:25pm |
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jammun ![]() JMA Jazz Reviewer ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Really though, it is a fine album. In my college days...a sophomore babe, a bottle of wine, Ballads or Willie Nelson's Stardust...
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Atavachron ![]() JMA Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz Reviewer Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 189 |
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in listening to Trane's many albums, one wonders how much rehearsal and planning, if any, went into some of them.. it often sounds as if they were at the studio, hit the mics and just started playing, and the good takes were used for LPs-- closer to the way the Blues cats recorded
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35658 |
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According to something I read before said a lot of those Jimmy Smith blues jazz songs he recorded were just things he made up on the spot in the studio that were based around well known blues changes and the musicians involved were expected to just fall in and get with it.
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1966 |
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ah another jazz masterpiece recorded in 1959 (but released 1960)
Giant Steps might be my favorite, but i havent listened to the man's music in a good while. I'll be back |
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Abraxas ![]() JMA Collaborator ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1251 |
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Giant Steps is one of my fave Trane albums, no doubt.
Besides A Love Supreme, I'd say My Favorite Things is my other absolute fave, the title track is one of the most brilliant music ever delivered. But it's tough though, most of his 57-65 period is pure gold.
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Padraic ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Thanks to David/Atavachron for some recs, my current Coltrane collection is as follows:
A Love Supreme Ascension Dakar Giant Steps The Complete Africa/Brass Sessions |
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Abraxas ![]() JMA Collaborator ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1251 |
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Care to point out which one you liked best, and if you didn't like one of those at all.
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Padraic ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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I still have yet to listen to a couple of them (Dakar, Africa/Brass). Thought Ascension was pure brilliance, which shouldn't come as a shock to those that even somewhat know my tastes. Need more listens to all of it to form a good opinion.
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Abraxas ![]() JMA Collaborator ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1251 |
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I see, you might be interested in checking out stuff like Interstellar Space which is only drums and sax, just imagine it haha. You know I'm not a fan of free jazz/avant garde, so I'm more fond of his pre-65 stuff in general.
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Matt ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Jazz Reviewer Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 2525 |
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Blue Train for me. My Favourite Things next. I don't like his later ones much like Ascension, Transition etc. I love his quartet or quintet stuff from Impulse the best. Live at the Vanguard, Africa, Chim Chim Cheree, Crescent, up to Sunship.
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Abraxas ![]() JMA Collaborator ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1251 |
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Yeah me too. There's the ocassional surprisingly good album from the free era, say 'First Meditations' is very restrained from squealings and pure chatoic moments, unlike the original 'Meditations'. 'Stellar Regions' and 'Expressions' also have some pleasant moments, even a track with Coltrane on flute all through. |
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