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    Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 4:08am
Question about "spiritual jazz"...Wink

When was the term coined?? Confused

I've got no memory of hearing that "genre" in the 70's or 80's when discovering 60's & 70's albums (from ALS to Pharoah or Sony Liston Smyth or from Alice, to Tyner or Mwandishi)....
I mean, these were coined "New Thing, Modal jazz, Soul Jazz or Jazz-funk", back then, right?


I could be totally wrong, but as far as I can tell, this is a new "genre" imagined in the last decade (or so) to make a filiation between those 60/70's albums and the Kamasi/Shabaka generation.

this "spiritual jazz" tag kind of speaks for itself (though I haven't seen it in JMA's DB), but when did it appear?


Edited by Sean Trane - 28 Aug 2017 at 4:19am
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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I think I first started hearing that term about 10 or 15 years ago, and I was listening to that kind of music since about 40 years ago.
Judging from the magazines I read from both the UK and US, I think the term is more popular in the UK, but US publications will use the term sometimes too.
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that's what I thought, thanks Wink
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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The fact that no one has posted here for six years is depressing.

I'm currently on a spiritual jazz kick, notably working through a bunch of Pharoah Sanders and a little McCoy Tyner on the side.  Karma is currently my number 1 spiritual album.
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neo-spiritual jazz had it's popularity peak in London few years ago, and is still really popular around UK
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Then I need to get to some spiritual stuff from the last ten years.  Thanks for letting me know.
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This fairly recent album by Willie Morris has a spiritual jazz influence:

https://williemorrisjazz.bandcamp.com/album/conversation-starter

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Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

Then I need to get to some spiritual stuff from the last ten years.  Thanks for letting me know.


let say this
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or this?
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I'm gonna get through the EP's of Maisha before heading off to Willie Morris.  I posted a short review of that Maisha album, though.  Thanks for telling me about them.

Btw, I noticed that Willie has a second album for this year on JMA, "Attentive Listening," but I can't find any other source for it.  Is it an upcoming album?


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Thats probably an album that has not come out yet, but has been announced. He doesn't exactly play spiritual jazz, but you can hear the influence on some tracks.
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Since I am a Christian, I mostly only listen to jazz made by Christians. These include Joey DeFrancesco, Brian Blade, Jimmy Greene, McCoy Tyner, Cyrus Chestnut, Kenny Garrett, and Eric Reed.  Peace and goodwill.
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Originally posted by Drumolator Drumolator wrote:

Since I am a Christian, I mostly only listen to jazz made by Christians. These include Joey DeFrancesco, Brian Blade, Jimmy Greene, McCoy Tyner, Cyrus Chestnut, Kenny Garrett, and Eric Reed.  Peace and goodwill.

Don't forget Duke Ellington who probably wrote more Christian jazz pieces than anyone.
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Thanks for information
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I just got through the first two Pyramids albums.  I need some afro-jazz in the mix, and I've only heard one other album of it so far.  Now I'm starting the 2020 album Shaman.
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I think it's a relatively recent term for artists influenced by the late 60's / early 70's Free Jazz from John and Alice Coltrane and others.   I think I first heard it used to refer to Kamesi and some of the West Coast Get Down scene...  I find stuff often labelled "Kozmigroov" to be up this particular alley, as well.

I dig it.  
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The return of 'spiritual jazz' was a surprise to me, I always thought that was entirely a 60s-70s sort of thing, but its good it made a comeback and even better that today's young people get into it. 
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