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    Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 8:15am
As a bit of a hypothetical exercise but for discussion too, list your potential (living) ideal (or at least potentially interesting) quartet/quintet.  If you have the energy, add an 'all time' one too.

I'll start with a living quartet I'd like to hear perform:

Herbie Hancock - piano
Peter Knight - trumpet
Jimmy Cobb - drums
Miroslav Vitouš - bass

Not sure exactly how it would sound, but I think Herbie and Knight would work together in terms of their willingness to experiment. Herbie is almost as restless as Miles was when it comes to exploring styles, and Peter Knight has recently been experimenting with the laptop as an instrument. Aside from that I like his World Fusion/Nu-jazz work with Way Out West.

Cobb is versatile but has been on some truly landmark recordings too - and part of me imagined this quartet would do something thematic a la Sketches - or certainly something that had modal and experimental overtones. Miroslav I've thrown in there because I find his playing and composing interesting a lot of the time - not sure exactly how he'd fit in, but I know if I chose Carter, for instance, it might be too familiar to have him and Herbie together.


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My crazy avant-bop quartet

Mingus: bass
Max Roach: drums
Sun Ra: piano
Eric Dolphy: alto sax

They would play standards, but in ways you never heard before. Shocked
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I was thinking of how both Pete Cosey and Jon Lord passed away recently and thought what a great psychedelic blues rock band those two would make, so here is a jazzy psychedelic blues rock group that can also get a bit avant-garde.

Pete Cosey / guitar
Jon Lord / organ
Jack Bruce / bass, vocals
Buddy Miles / drums, vocals
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All time ideal quartet:
Coltrane,
Tyner,
Jones
and .... Mingus
 
And for a quintet, add Herbie Mann (flute) or McLaughlin
 
 
Oh yeah, they'd play the logical continuation between ALS (or Africa/Brass) and BSatSL, but with the added possibility of flute and/or guitar 
 
 
 
 


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OK, that didn't last too long ...
 
Dhafer Youssef (his own band) - vocals, oud
Tigran Hamasyan (his own band)  - piano, el piano 
Duncan Bellamy (Portico quartet) - Hang Drum & percussion
Danny Thompson (Pentangle, John Martyn, etc...) - contrabass
Jeremy Steig  His own band) - flute
 
They'd play a modern brand of world fusion
 
 
 
 


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Originally posted by js js wrote:

My crazy avant-bop quartet

Mingus: bass
Max Roach: drums
Sun Ra: piano
Eric Dolphy: alto sax

They would play standards, but in ways you never heard before. Shocked


Yeah, that sounds pretty damn good - would Mingus or Sun Ra do most of the composing on non-standards? Which standard do you think would be most interesting?

Originally posted by js js wrote:

I was thinking of how both Pete Cosey and Jon Lord passed away recently and thought what a great psychedelic blues rock band those two would make, so here is a jazzy psychedelic blues rock group that can also get a bit avant-garde.

Pete Cosey / guitar
Jon Lord / organ
Jack Bruce / bass, vocals
Buddy Miles / drums, vocals


Thats' another great line-up - would love to see them do a live set. Especially Jack and Buddy singing together, nice contrast there. And Bruce and Lord too, great


Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

All time ideal quartet:
Coltrane, Tyner, Jones and .... Mingus
And for a quintet, add Herbie Mann or Jeremy Steig (flute) or McLaughlin
 
for the still living.... I'll come back on it.
 
 


I'd like to see McLaughlin in that Quintet, sounds fiery indeed.  What do you think they'd do a good cover of? 'Meeting of the Spirits'?  'Haitian Fight Song?'
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David Cross - Violin
Robert Fripp - Guitar
Bill Bruford - Drums
John Wetton - Bass
Jamie Muir - Precussion

oh, wait...
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Re Ashley, the set list for the avant-bop quartet: 
Some obscure T Monk songs
Some of Parker's more out songs like "Koko", give Dolphy a chance to go off.
The open ended hard bop jams by Ra and Mingus like "Calling All Demons" and "Haitian Fight Song".
Ellington is a big part of all these guys, so there would be an Ellington tune or two, maybe a ballad, something obscure again.
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Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

David Cross - ViolinRobert Fripp - GuitarBill Bruford - DrumsJohn Wetton - BassJamie Muir - Precussionoh, wait...



Larks' Tongues in Aspic perhaps? Oh, yeah
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Piano: Ahmad Jamal/McCoy Tyner hybrid
Bass: Charles Mingus
Drums: Kenny Clarke
If I had to have a horn player, I would choose Paul Desmond. Or Eric Dolphy, for the other end of the spectrum.
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^ nice, I like the idea of hybrid players.
I might meld Hancock with Hiromi perhaps!


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Hearing them do some Ellington would be ace, John - and some with Monk and Parker thrown it that'd be a crazy set.
I'd like to see what they would do with one of my favourite more odd pieces, by Jazz/Classical composer 'Moondog'
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