Question about collaborator status

If there is an artist that you would be willing to add all the albums for, let us know who it is and we will add the artist and you can add all the albums. 

One of the things I have posted regularly about, on the sister board, is the need for a historical discussion with solid representation of many of the major works in the whole thing, which (sadly) has become so fractured that I am not sure that it can be done.

On the jazz side of things, this is probably a better idea, and having a solid write up on the history, specially from WW2 on, would be massive, since the jazz side of things is not as fractured and bizarre as so much of the rock stuff seems to be. And jazz, in America, does not have as bad a breakdown as the rock/pop disciplines in the country ... which make the creation of a good article with a fair history, almost impossible in the rock areas.

But the "history" of jazz, in America, is very visible since WW2 ... and compiling some of that work would really help explain the term, instead of it being, simply, a blank term for things that do not rely on melody like rock/pop do.

I would gladly help do this if there was interest, but in my advanced years, I might be better at helping than leading it, and help smooth out transitions, and details as much as possible.

The history of jazz, BEFORE WW2, is very spotty, and will end up with all of us having opinions ... but I don't know/see things happening to the music side of things during the depression when Theater Groups ended up producing "Newspaper plays" (no kidding) and performing them on stage ... I have not, exactly found, or heard much about that side of the music scene, though it looks like the classical scene also took a massive hit until after WW2. Or likely, I have not read about them much.

Apologies for accidentally taking this thread to what might be considered an incorrect direction, although I think the "history" of the arts in America is what we need to address somewhat, so we can try and "find" how the jazz music survived in the early years of the 20th Century.

But there is a problem that I see on the sister board ... I do not think that the majority of "collaborators" os "admins" spend a lot of time reading a whole lot, specially when the posts are longer ... which sometimes can not be helped ... to help clarify the opinion and understanding of the situation. 

What does this mean? 

Sadly, the chances of adding someone to the "club" that has a lot of an upside, from the many comments, that are not trolling material, is not going to get a chance ... and over 15 years or more (don't even know when I joined PA), the addition of some collaborators and admins, has been, for the most part  just folks that had ... what? Certainly not by their posts on threads ... and you know that the choice was based on something else.

Some folks, collaborators mostly is my guess, spend their time working the database and keeping things slightly organized ... but the lack of consensus as to the quality and material that is posted that helps the history and the material stand up stronger and end up with a richer history than previously ... very few of these folks, and none of them will ever be selected for anything.

I post a lot, based on my degree in theater and film, and one of the things that I am well attuned to is the history of the art forms ... guess what PA lacks? And JS posting here and explaining the need, is interesting for me, but I am not sure that it can be separated from the rest of the arts, that also suffered, by the ownership by the film studios, the only folks that were making money off their work, though some artists (painters, writers mostly) managed to get some residual gains off their work, but after that, it was mostly what the radio stations played, but since they were "owned" by the studios, you would not know, that the choices were theirs for what materials to play, and this added to the racism that permeated the film studios, up to and including using a white man with a painted face and call him "the jazz singer", when the studios knew very well that almost all jazz players and singers were black ... but they were not going to change ...

I think that JMA can add a person or two to their group, as "collaborators", but I don't think they will, and specially myself, who some folks on PA think I am a problem because of the posts I make and mention a lot of things relating to theater and film, which some of them over there do not like ... that relationship has a way to break up their ideas about the art form ... and this would be a major difference with "jazz" as it can't be broken up any more than it already is ... but the divisions in rock music are prohibitive, when you deal with three or four factions in America that just about suggests ... this is a bunch of several countries, not one. The appreciation for an art form suffers, when NY thinks that the art from SF is crap, and the LA folks think that the NY stuff is worse than all the ... you get the idea, and don't even mention C&W and some other areas, where the attitudes are even worse.

In a viable and artistic way, the addition of a few folks with the various knowledge that is requested is going to be an issue ... many of those folks are busy teaching in colleges and universities to worry about a JMA or PA, specially when so many folks don't like the ideas and the history of it all ... something that is appreciated and enjoyed a lot more in an academic location. I've wanted to raise the level of the abilities ... but seeing only folks that spend their time criticizing people that are not with the program ... as being "negative" ... makes me wonder how someone can recognize the negative without looking into the mirror. Might be another story.

Hopefully JS and SNOBB can find someone to join them and perhaps help add a little more to JMA ... I will continue posting until I fall out of the conscience of the universe ... but I can tell you from history of the arts, that it is difficult when the appreciation is ... though I like to think that I am helping some ... though I am not sure what it is I am helping with, other than littering the board with many posts, the thing that some folks hate in the sister location because it makes me a troll. However as stated before, the history is so spotty in the area requested, that finding someone for that specific detail is going to be difficult ... specially as seen via the sister board, the history and knowledge of it in the arts, is not appreciated at all ... it is almost always ignored (folks don't read anymore!) and then dismissed with a troll comment, which the admins prefer not to do anything about ... and in the end, the history is damaged and destroyed, for lack of appreciation ... and I think you have to have the inner side PURE, for this to come about ... but sometimes it's really hard to think about this, and remember a famous line about throwing pearls to the swine ... I don't want to sound disrespectful at all, but after a while what else is there to think, when the appreciation is invisible?

But if you, or anyone else, can not tell the difference ...I might as well quit right now ... or hope I do not run out of appreciation for ... nice, and thank you at least.

Heck, if I get to be a collaborator, it would be as some kind of trash collector ... I'll have to get an uniform for that, though!