Sketches of Spain VS Ole Coltrane
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Topic: Sketches of Spain VS Ole Coltrane
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Subject: Sketches of Spain VS Ole Coltrane
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 9:08am
At this stage I'm not sure myself, but these two seemed like a fun match up on a thematic level, despite their obvious differences.  ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 10:04am
| I don't own "Ole", maybe some day, but I do like "Sketches". |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 11:05am
| "Ole" is better than average Coltrane album for me (what is a lot knowing Coltrane standard ), and "Sketches.." - between Miles' greats |
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 3:48pm
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Not often I go for a Gil Evans but went for "Sketches" ------------- Matt |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 5:24pm
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Sketches for me love that album.............................
------------- "If you're trying to be hip, be hip." - Miles Davis |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 6:23pm
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So Miles - screaming to an early lead. I'll probably go for Miles in the end but I may have to give Ole another few spins and some more thought. It's one of my fav COltrane's. Any one got an idea of a third album with a similar thematic idea that I could have included? ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 7:14pm
| If you like the orchestrations on "Sketches", Miles Davis "Quiet Nights" is slightly similar, I'll try to think of something better and get back to you. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 7:16pm
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Cool, thanks John. I reckon there'd be a few out there. A song or two off 'Miles Ahead' have a similar feel too. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 8:44pm
| If you are looking for Spanish flavored jazz (not Latin Jazz mind you) then you might try Chick Corea's "Return to Forever" as well as many of his other albums. Chick comes back to the music of Spain often in his career. |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 8:47pm
| George Benson's "White Rabbit" has some jazz goes to Spain music with some Don Sebesky orchestrations, at least I think it is that Benson album. |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 9:15pm
| I went to "Ole". The album thinks me to be of high quality like Giant Steps. The ballad album is a bit boring for me. However, Ole is a good album. I think Coltrane after having withdrawn from Miles group to have announced the good album successively immediately. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 11:57pm
Yeah, definitely, one of my favs! Actually, that one isn't a bad fit thematically, especially with 'El Mar' among others - which is interesting for a 'pop-jazz' release, huh?
I do have the first two RTF albums, which I do like a lot, the song 'Spain' is ace! I should have thought of them. Which of Chick's solo albums have that tone? ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
js wrote:Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 11:58pm
Yes, I agree, it was a great album on the heels of Miles'. 'Ole' is definitely up there with 'Giant Steps' and ' A Love Supreme' etc, definitely. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 12:02am
"My Spanish Heart"
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 12:22am
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^ hahaha! Awesome, will check it out now
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 3:13am
Well, I'd have put Mingus' Tijuana Moods for a third stooge  in this poll, as this one dates from 57 (but released only in 62), as opposed to 59 for SoS and Olé from 61....
SoS is as much a Gil Evans album (if not more) than it is a Miles album, so it's kind of a 2 on 1 against Trane
haven't decided yet what I'll vote.
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 3:31am
Corea's "My Spanish Heart" is closest to "Sketches Of Spain" of all Chick's solo and RTF releases (and extremely great album
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 5:36am
Ah, another good choice - maybe one day I should add Mingus & Corea to a poll, The Best of Spain! Great suggestion, Sean. Yeah, I agree, Gil & Miles vs John at this point. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 5:43am
I've added it to my list! Surprised I didn't think of it before, I remember looking into it years ago, but this is a nice reminder to get it ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 3:42pm
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Trane ------------- Hit it on Five. Saxophone Scatterbrain Blitzberg Stab them in the ears. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 3:15am
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Maaaaan!!!! I'm in the middle of a Gil Evans exploration, and Sketches Of Spain is more of a Gil affair than a Miles album, really!!! He's the one pushing the Rodrigo influences on that album... miles is just the soloist.
Had to stop on the side of the road coming back last nist from work, because I was listening to Las Vegas Tango (from The Individualism of GE), because I was unable to concentrate on driving , getting drown in my tearsof joy, listening to that track...
 awesome... especially when the upper brass section is giving those three burst, answered by the low-brass section's almost-farting answer... Just too much to handle... ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 8:02am
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^ awesome, another album I ought to check out, thanks, Sean! I agree, Evans probably had a vision with the album. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 6:15am
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I love Ole but I went with Davis in the end, forgot about the poll for a while. Interested to hear 'Spoonful' by Evans, from the 'Individualism...' album too ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 7:00am
I'm about to review the album
Spoonful was a bonus track, and although rather fun, it doesn't really fit in with the original album's sounscapes, like the other three previous bonus tracks. Hwever, the one preceding the album proper is a perfect complement. ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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