Combo Size
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Topic: Combo Size
Posted By: Amilisom
Subject: Combo Size
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 12:25am
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I've been listening to a few trio albums recently, in particular Oscar Peterson and Bill Evans trios.
It occurred to me that it can be difficult to compare a trio to a group of larger size, like a quintet. The content of the music is much more diverse in albums such as "Blue Train" where there is a trumpet, trombone, and saxophone alternating solos along with the pianist and bass player also possibly taking solos. I suppose this question depends entirely on one's opinion, but I think it's worth thinking about. Is a larger combo, for the most part, better than a small one? Many top jazz album lists on other sites seem to think so. Or is it perhaps "Not about the size, but how you use it"  ------------- "Pay no attention to what the critics say; there has never been a statue set up in honor of a critic." -Jean Sibelius |
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 3:45am
| I think they both can be interesting. I like the large ensemble work of Gil Evans, Duke Ellington, Anthony Braxton, Don Ellis, Sun Ra and so many more, a lot of that is my favorite music, but sometimes nothing sounds better than a tenor, standup bass and drums trio. |
Posted By: Amilisom
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 2:51pm
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I suppose I was excluding the works of big bands, limiting the question to whether a good lineup (like in Kind of Blue) is "better" with 6 people rather than 3 or 4. ------------- "Pay no attention to what the critics say; there has never been a statue set up in honor of a critic." -Jean Sibelius |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 7:08pm
| I think that I need a technique and knowledge when a small form expresses it for a musician. I think that both trio and quartet are interesting personally. I recommend trio where there is not a piano player if there is an opportunity. I can feel that it widens possibility of trio more and think that it is interesting. |
Posted By: Amilisom
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 10:57pm
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Can you give recommendations for trios like that? That sounds awesome. ------------- "Pay no attention to what the critics say; there has never been a statue set up in honor of a critic." -Jean Sibelius |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 11:39pm
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Yes. I collected albums of trio where there was not a piano player before. The form may be in the form that it is more irregular than piano trio. However, the form can enjoy possibility of trio. Probably by a line of sax-bass-drums. Some albums are these. I believe that it is an entrance for this to enjoy trio album. A Night at the Village Vanguard - Sonny Rollins Motion - Lee Konitz At The "Golden Circle" - Ornette Coleman Triplicate - Dave Holland The Dark Keys - Branford Marsalis |
Posted By: davidrydelnik
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 2:32am
add "The Trumpet Player" by Avishai Cohen to that list...one of my absolute favorite trio albums. (I also highly recommend the other's listed above  )------------- Jazz Trumpeter, Vocalist, Trombonist, Guitarist...internet marketer and fitness geek. <a href="http://davidrydelnik.com" _fcksavedurl="http://davidrydelnik.com"> |
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