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Topic: Greatest Jazz masterpieces
Posted By: Noak2
Subject: Greatest Jazz masterpieces
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 5:18pm







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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by Noak2 Noak2 wrote:







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Posted By: Krilons Resa
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 11:57am
This is impossible but I'll offer a few from the Golden Era.   The new Golden Era is right now, by the way.  Jazz hasn't seen this much tremendous talent and amazing stuff pushing the boundaries since the 60's.

Anyhow, I'll point out that Coltrane's A Love Supreme is a given.







I guess Eric Dolphy is a running theme here.


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 12:01pm
I can't choose just one or three. 

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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 1:22pm
I kind of just want to post Mingus' discography here

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Posted By: Katje
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 8:50pm
I'll resort to two:

Grachan Moncur III - Evolution (Line-up Lee Morgan, Jackie McLean, Bobby Hutcherson, Bob Crenshaw, Tony Willians)

Max Roach - We Insist! Max Roach's - Freedom Now Suite


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2011 at 12:18am
Mingus is winning the golden slipper so far,....

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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 4:05am
Another slow thread....... must be more jazz masterpieces somewhere

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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 8:44am
I might have to put Mingus up for mine too - maybe KOB, tough choice indeed. In terms of impact maybe KOB, but it really is hard to go past The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, still very much enamored of it.

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 9:52am
Kind of Blue by Miles Davis is a masterpiece. Just an album full of beautiful music.

Giant Steps and A Love Supreme are also 2 Coltrans albums that are essential jazz listening

Mingus Ah Um and Black Sinner... are up there as well.

There's definitely more, but I need to go through my collection, as this is off the top of my head.

As far as fusion; I never found Mahavishnu Orchestra albums masterpieces (though essential). In A Silent Way and Bitches Brew by Miles definitely are, as well as Romantic Warrior and Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy by Return to Forever, Spectrum by Billy Cobham, and many more. Again, I'll need to go through my collection.


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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 2:37pm
Maiden Voyage by Hancock
My Favorite Things by Coltrane
The Koln Concert by Keith Jarrett

As for fusion, one of my all-time faves: Where Have I Known You Before by Return to Forever.


Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 3:31pm
A couple have already been suggested
 
Miles Davis........."Kind Of Blue"
 
John Coltrane........."My Favourite Things" 
 
McCoy Tyner........... "The Real McCoy"
 
Sonny Rollins..........."Worktime"
 
Any album done by a good Jazz vocalist with Fats Waller, Rodgers and Hart or Hammerstein, Cole Porter, Hoagy Carmichael, Johnny Mercer,  etc. even Hank Williams. These people wrote so many standards that are constantly played by Jazz musicians. Yep get to know the roots or  if not the original version, something pretty close.
 
Then you can sing along ( in bits, depending on the approach) and you will better enjoy the various improvised takes from any Jazz artist better.
 
Suggested vocalists
 
 
Frank Sinatra
Frankie Laine
Jimmy Rushing
Billy Holiday
Ella Fitzgerald
Anita O'Day
Bobby Darin
 
and of course although it is his trumpet playing that is the best bit Louis Armstrong............
 
Don't go for the earlies from the 20's (they are Great) but the best representation and sound in any albums are the two Columbia's he did in the mid fifties
 
Louis Armstrong Plays WC Handy
 
Satch Plays Fats.....................( Fats Waller material)
 
 
And one last vocalist who although is not listed on the site. He is a popular singer primarily
 
DEAN MARTIN  Cool Big smile  AKA Dino 
 
Having a little joke about Dino at the moment after I played 4 or 5 albums in a row the other day. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2012 at 6:42pm



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Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 2:43am
Coltrane's A Love Supreme is probably my favorite pure jazz album. Love it more with every listen.
 
Brotzmann's Machine Gun above is also wonderful, and my favorite free jazz album. No album I've found has that intensity. In any genre.
 


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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:


 
 
Tongue


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2012 at 11:18am
I saw a movie recently at my cousin's house, it starred Dean Martin. Must have been from the 60s.

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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2012 at 3:38pm
MIssing Italy already
 
 
 
Greatest Masterpieces - still leaning toward KOB but I will keep thinking.
 
 


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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2012 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

I saw a movie recently at my cousin's house, it starred Dean Martin. Must have been from the 60s.
Was Jerry Lewis with him?

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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2012 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

MIssing Italy already
 
 
 
Greatest Masterpieces - still leaning toward KOB but I will keep thinking.
 
 
What would a wedding be without "That's Amore" Big smile

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2012 at 8:32pm
No. It was a spy movie or something like that. I don't remember details as I wasn't giving it my full attention.

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Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2012 at 4:36am
I also feel inclinded to say something by Dave Brubeck. Time Out is the obvious choice. Though I must admit, I enjoy other Brubeck albums more...like Time Further Out and the carneige hall concert.

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Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2012 at 8:25pm
At the risk of too many cliched choices, I think very highly of Don Ellis, and this may be his masterpiece album, It really sound good on vinyl.


Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2012 at 8:31pm


This is a masterpiece, the album is breathtaking.


Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2012 at 7:16am
Thought I'd bump this

Another contender for me and another obvious choice




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Posted By: westend1530
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 7:49am
This is great. I have finally put together a stereo system the sounds rather good, and i find myself listening to a lot more jazz. These are great suggestions. it looks like I am off to the used record store with a long album list in my hand.

Thanks 


Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 12:20am


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 11:36am
^ One of the greatest Jazz masterpieces? I don't think so.

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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 5:28pm
Masterpieces of Jazz?


Whats the best Mingus album as most are leaning towards that?


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 7:10pm
I don't know if there is a "best" Mingus album as music tastes tend to be subjective, but if you check the previous posts, many have listed their favorite.


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2012 at 7:55pm
I heard Black saint and Sinnner Lady and would agree that has to be a masterpiece - amazing atmospheres and jazz explorations on a concept theme - very NOIR JAZZ - is that a genre??

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 3:39am
I like noir jazz too, I'd call that a description, not a genre.


Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 5:10am
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

I heard Black saint and Sinnner Lady and would agree that has to be a masterpiece - amazing atmospheres and jazz explorations on a concept theme - very NOIR JAZZ - is that a genre??


Yes, amazing atmosphere - perfect word for it.

Originally posted by js js wrote:

I like noir jazz too, I'd call that a description, not a genre.


I like that word choice 'description' rather than 'genre' - although, it might be fun to compile a bit of a list of artists who do use the noir feel. One day I will investigate


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 5:19am
My list of favorite noir jazz artists would be:

Duke Ellington
Charles Mingus
Henry Mancini
Quincey Jones


I know there are more, probably even forgotten in my own record collection, so I will try to add more later. I also have a couple of CDs that are labeled "Crime Jazz", these tend to feature soundtrack composers who use noir jazz in their soundtracks.
For the rock fans out there, Robert Fripp's early version of King Crimson was laden with noir jazz, or what I like to call "crime jazz".


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2012 at 12:20am
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Name your number one JAZZ masterpiece - hopefully that may inspire others, myself included, to get hold of worthy jazz masterpieces. (if you have to resort to 3 then do so - it cant hurt). 

 
Mine is easy:

 

 
A landmark album from the revolutionaries of jazz fusion.
Is it me or is the image actually blank? I checked the file name through "Save Image As", but it does not display the name of the album. I bet it's ThirdSmile



Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 7:44pm
A Love Supreme


Posted By: BlueNote
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 3:26pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

My list of favorite noir jazz artists would be:

Duke Ellington
Charles Mingus
Henry Mancini
Quincey Jones


I know there are more, probably even forgotten in my own record collection, so I will try to add more later. I also have a couple of CDs that are labeled "Crime Jazz", these tend to feature soundtrack composers who use noir jazz in their soundtracks.
For the rock fans out there, Robert Fripp's early version of King Crimson was laden with noir jazz, or what I like to call "crime jazz".


For example, what composition do you mean?


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 3:58pm
If your talking about "noir jazz", for Ellington and Mingus, pretty much anything, it runs through their music. For Mancicni or Jones, check their crime soundtracks, such as the well known "Pink Panther" for Mancini.


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 4:02pm
Here's a good one, Mingus' "Haitian Fight Song"

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Posted By: BlueNote
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 4:04pm
Thank you.

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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 6:06pm
Also the entire 'Black Saint...' album (one I never seem to get tired of mentioning) is very noir indeed

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2012 at 1:48pm
I've been really diggin' The Birth of the Cool, I got a remaster or it from Best Buy for 5 bucks. I think Miles got it right with that album, 10 years before Kind of Blue. Amazing music, I don't even think about the fact that it was recorded so long ago in 1949, timeless music.

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Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 7:46am
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

I've been really diggin' The Birth of the Cool, I got a remaster or it from Best Buy for 5 bucks. I think Miles got it right with that album, 10 years before Kind of Blue. Amazing music, I don't even think about the fact that it was recorded so long ago in 1949, timeless music.


Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

I've been really diggin' The Birth of the Cool, I got a remaster or it from Best Buy for 5 bucks. I think Miles got it right with that album, 10 years before Kind of Blue. Amazing music, I don't even think about the fact that it was recorded so long ago in 1949, timeless music.


I have the same feeling about Birth of the Cool,  really does foreshadow Kind of Blue. Gil Evans is all over this music too, Miles Ahead and Porgy & Bess in particular remind me of Birth of the Cool.

It is interesting to consider in hind sight, that this album in its entirety minus the Kenny Hagood sung "Darn That Dream", was not released until 1957, Miles was already a star within jazz, about ready to become a household name. Much of what happens to Miles during that 48-50 period shapes everything that happens the next 10 years.

Think of the music that was released to the general public from 1956 1961,  The 4 Gil Evans collaborations, including Birth of the Cool, Kind of Blue, Milestones, The Soundtrack "Lift to the Scaffold "speaking of noir", then the 1956 sessions for Prestige to close out that contract, Cookin', Workin' Relaxin' and Steamin' all released during this period. No wonder Miles became a household name.

This also gives some insight why Miles was criticized so much by the sacred cow establishment critic at the time of the electric period.  They couldn't reconcile the genius of Birth of the Cool and the rest with rock and funk. Ironically that music today, is more important, and to the forefront for today contemporary artists.

On the Corner and Get up with It are all over the music landscape today. those albums were not loved in there day. just like Birth of the Cool wasn't for 7 years after its recording.




 



Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 8:10am
Welcome back darkprince! Smile

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 8:23am
"Birth of the Cool" is a favorite for me too. Music that will always sound modern, in any era.


Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 10:18am
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Welcome back darkprince! Smile


Glad to be back, I have been lurking in the back ground once in a while.  Just really busy these days.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 12:52pm
Yea, Miles albums like Birth of the Cool, Kind of Blue, and Miles Ahead have been my favorite Miles albums lately.

And welcome back darkprinceofjazz


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Posted By: FromArmstrongtoZappa
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2014 at 7:34pm
Since I'm listening to Duke Ellington right now, I'll vote for Black, Brown and Beige.

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