When Lights Are Low
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Topic: When Lights Are Low
Posted By: gitfrog
Subject: When Lights Are Low
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 8:36am
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I'm desperate for some assistance on the the bridge of Benny Carters' song, When Lights Are Low. Can anyone send me the chords to the bridge? (for guitar- Key of F please, but will take another key) I already have the Miles Davis arrangement, so it has to be Benny's original chart. I would greatly appreciate your help. Regards, Geno |
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 8:40am
| I will look into it and let you know if I find anything or not ... and welcome to the site. |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 8:49am
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Here is a link that might work for you, looks like its in Eb so you'll have to take everything up one step to get in F. Let me know if you need help transposing, I can do that. Also, let me know if this isn't what you are looking for, I found other resources too. http://www.sheetmusicdirect.com/se/ID_No/61075/Product.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.sheetmusicdirect.com/se/ID_No/61075/Product.aspx
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Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 9:06am
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I've seen that before ( and all sorts on the internet) and I tried to look inside as they say you can, even tried downloading "scorch", or whatever they say you need to see it, but still couldn't get to see any part of the bridge. So I don't know if it has Benny's original bridge or not. I have a few recordings of the song but I'm having difficulty hearing the changes. Thanks for your quick response. I appreciate your time. Geno |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 9:16am
| No problem, let me look some more. I'll get back to you. |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 9:20am
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Check this guy, there is another sheet music resource that I really like, but i haven't re-found it yet, still looking. http://piano-play.com/" rel="nofollow - http://piano-play.com/
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 9:31am
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Here it is, check this thread, I've found some cool lead sheets on here that I couldn't find elsewhere. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1907&title=jazz-music-sheet-directory" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1907&title=jazz-music-sheet-directory
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Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 9:58am
Nope, the first one doesn't have the song and the second one, the site is no longer on the net. Geno |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 10:11am
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Bummer, that was a good site, probably got in trouble for copyrite violation. I have to step out for a bit now, I'll do more looking later, but this appears to be a difficult find. You might want to try listing your request in the musician section of New York City's Craig's List. Hold on and I will get you a link.
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 10:14am
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Here is a link to NYC's craigslist musician section. I'll check back later. http://newyork.craigslist.org/muc/" rel="nofollow - http://newyork.craigslist.org/muc/
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 11:38am
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Found this on craigslist. http://www.jazzstudies.us/" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzstudies.us/
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 11:40am
| ^ they have Lights are Low, I just looked at it, its free too, but I don't know if it is the Miles arrangement. |
Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 11:41am
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That last one did it! I found a site that I actually saw before and there it was. Thanks so much for all your time and effort. You must be retired like me to have the time to do this.  Regards, Geno |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 11:42am
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No, not retired, but I work at schools a lot, summer time is free time! (mostly).
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Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 11:45am
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Do you play? Are you a musician? |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 11:47am
| Yeah, I play keyboards, I'm more in the jazzy/RnB realm than pure jazz. I work on playing standards at home and with friends, and will occasionally play things like that in public, but I'm not in the same class as the real hardcore boppers. I keep working on it, meanwhile I do pro gigs in RnB, funk, fusion, blues etc. |
Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 11:57am
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Obviously I own a guitar, and I mostly play by myself with backing tracks. They're great. Always on time and never make a mistake. I try to get together with my grandson, who passed me a long time ago. But he occasionally humors me and makes the effort. By the way, that chart was in the key I wanted. Thanks again, Geno |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 12:04pm
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I noticed it was in F, that was cool. By the way, if you ever feel like writing reviews or know someone who wants to, please go ahead, our site gets a lot of fusion reviews while other genres are not getting the attention they deserve. Even if you don't want to review, feel free to rate some records, its quick and easy, our older jazz styles need more ratings and reviews. Right now I'm just about the only person on the site who can review pre-50s jazz, or even pre-60s sometimes. Also, tell any jazz loving freinds or relatives about us if you want.
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Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 12:15pm
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Let me look into that. I love Jazz but I concentrate on guitar. I'll check out you review section and see if I can do it. Geno |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2014 at 12:20pm
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If the reviews look difficult, you can always click on the stars under the albums and rate them, that part is easy, but all the same, don't feel obligated. Cheers my friend.
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Posted By: Shrdlu
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2014 at 5:43pm
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Miles forgot the B section of that piece, and just took the A section up a fourth. (That version is on one of the Prestige sessions with Trane, Red Garland, Paul Chambers and Philly Joe.) I think I have heard the whole thing as Benny Carter wrote it, but I don't recall how it goes. All the best with this. Try to get into Eb (and all the other keys) as soon as you can. Lol, I was tossed in at the deep end with keys, at the tender age of 14. I used to take my alto saxophone to school, to jam with a friend who had a brand new Fender Stratocaster (guitar). He was into early pop and rock. Like most of those players, he spent most of the time in E, which is C# on an alto saxophone, so I had to get used to that key in a hurry. |
Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2014 at 6:35pm
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I've never been a big fan of Miles and I think it was probably from some of first stuff I heard in the 50s. I just never followed up on him until lately. I'm now beginning to like a some of his work. The first time I heard "When Lights Are Low" is a Howard Roberts recording on his Capitol album "Color Him Funky. He uses the original composition by Carter. There's also a YouTube of Carter playing his piece. I got to go with the original over Miles. Funny thing is most of the charts you find on the net are Miles' version, which is too bad. |
Posted By: Shrdlu
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 6:02am
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I agree about not using the Miles version. The piece should be played as Benny wrote it. Miles often tended to alter a piece, for whatever reason. He recorded "Straight, No Chaser" in F, and at a fairly brisk tempo. Because it's a blues, the performance is great. But Monk wrote that in Bb. He recorded the definitive version of that on the Riverside album "Five By Monk By Five", at a nice, slow groove. Some Miles recommendations for you: The "Miles Ahead" album, with Gil Evans, and a piece called "Eighty-One", from 1965. That piece has a funky groove alternating with straight 4/4. One alteration by Miles was a really good idea. Joe Zawinul brought "In A Silent Way" to a session, and they recorded a dreary take of it. Then Miles said why not drop all the chords and play the melody over a sustained E on the bass. That gave them a masterpiece. |
Posted By: gitfrog
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 6:53am
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I just listened to "In A Silent Way". I'm afraid my first instincts about Miles, at least for me, still holds. The only Miles music I own is "Birth of the Cool". That's on vinyl and it was an auto send from Capitol when I belonged to the Capitol Record Club 60 years ago. Thanks for the recommendations. It's been nice chatting with you. |