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Topic: Preferred lead instrument in a jazz group
Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Subject: Preferred lead instrument in a jazz group
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 7:07pm

So which is it?

I don't even know of all of these exist, but I tried not to get too outrageous with my choices. And this is generally meant in a small (trio/quartet, qunitet at most) "standard" jazz ensemble, but if you prefer to take it in a more fusion/avant direction please be my guest.


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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 7:08pm
Vibes are pretty kickin', I'll go with that.

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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 7:16pm
Hmm, leading .. that's tough.

I really love the duo of Organ and Vibes or Organ and Guitar, and when the three of them are present it can be killer.

I'll say Tenor Sax though, mainly due to Trane, I think that the sax can explore various fields and not get monotonous.


Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 7:41pm
Impossible to choose as I love them all at times but I went for trumpet because of Louis and Miles

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 8:01pm
I also love all kinds of different instruments, but I chose Electric Piano

for non-electric instrument, I'd choose trombone


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 8:18pm
Today its Hammond B3    ...mmmmmmmm   soul jazzzzzzz  Cool


Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 8:23pm
I be a SAX Man Sax man

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Posted By: Krilons Resa
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 8:37pm
Sax/Trumpet combo

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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 1:58am
Soprano Sax


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:16am
Wow, considering we all come from a prog/jazz-rock background, I am surprised by the complete lack of synth.

Dunno what to vote. What is the "lead" instrument in Jaga Jazzist? Tongue


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:27am
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Wow, considering we all come from a prog/jazz-rock background, I am surprised by the complete lack of synth.

Dunno what to vote. What is the "lead" instrument in Jaga Jazzist? Tongue
We "all" come from what background?   
I've been playing jazz and funk gigs since the late 70s.  Wink


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:31am
No, I mean as an online community. We've all had an interest in progressive rock / fusion at some point, which is why we're here (via PA).

EDIT: also, say NO to post-1979 jazz and all those modern hacks.

EDIT2: and I'm sure some guys would put 1959 instead of 1979 LOL


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:54am
I used to know some older jazz players way back when and as far as they were concerned fusion was a total sell-out motivated purely for cash reasons.
This older guitar player I knew from New York City used to do hilarious descriptions of Herbie's opening synth line on 'Chameleon",  after he had a few drinks.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:58am
Guitar!


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:58am
Make sure the forum censor is activatated, then post it here. Wink


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 9:18am
^  yeah, old school New Yorker  jazz guy, lots of "f" words when it came to Herbie's new synth sound.   LOL


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 10:37am
Tenor for me, because of Trane and Sanders. 

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 11:48am
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

No, I mean as an online community. We've all had an interest in progressive rock / fusion at some point, which is why we're here (via PA).

EDIT: also, say NO to post-1979 jazz and all those modern hacks.

EDIT2: and I'm sure some guys would put 1959 instead of 1979 LOL


i wonder if some would say post-1939 is rubbish


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 11:50am
Bop was noisy hectic and chaotic to people raised on swing dance bands. The jazz audience became much smaller during the Be Bop years.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 11:54am
Originally posted by js js wrote:

Bop was noisy hectic and chaotic to people raised on swing dance bands. The jazz audience became much smaller during the Be Bop years.


thankfully though, it allowed jazz to grow as an art form


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by js js wrote:

Bop was noisy hectic and chaotic to people raised on swing dance bands. The jazz audience became much smaller during the Be Bop years.


thankfully though, it allowed jazz to grow as an art form

That really crazy high speed Bop that Parker and Diz played might be jazz at its most refined point. There is no other music that sounds anything like it.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

No, I mean as an online community. We've all had an interest in progressive rock / fusion at some point, which is why we're here (via PA).

EDIT: also, say NO to post-1979 jazz and all those modern hacks.

EDIT2: and I'm sure some guys would put 1959 instead of 1979 LOL


i wonder if some would say post-1939 is rubbish



Didn't Mr. Marsalis say that?


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

So which is it?

I don't even know of all of these exist, but I tried not to get too outrageous with my choices. And this is generally meant in a small (trio/quartet, qunitet at most) "standard" jazz ensemble, but if you prefer to take it in a more fusion/avant direction please be my guest.
I went for the fender rhodes (el piano), but the way McCoy Tyner played on the acoustic pianogets deeper under my skin...
 
I also like flute (Stieg, Mann, for ex)


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

No, I mean as an online community. We've all had an interest in progressive rock / fusion at some point, which is why we're here (via PA).

EDIT: also, say NO to post-1979 jazz and all those modern hacks.

EDIT2: and I'm sure some guys would put 1959 instead of 1979 LOL


i wonder if some would say post-1939 is rubbish



Didn't Mr. Marsalis say that?


I think he'd be in the "No post-69 jazz"


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 1:32am
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

No, I mean as an online community. We've all had an interest in progressive rock / fusion at some point, which is why we're here (via PA).

EDIT: also, say NO to post-1979 jazz and all those modern hacks.

EDIT2: and I'm sure some guys would put 1959 instead of 1979 LOL


i wonder if some would say post-1939 is rubbish



Didn't Mr. Marsalis say that?


I think he'd be in the "No post-69 jazz"
69 is my fave, so I'm a pro-69Pig TongueLOL


Posted By: Ovalotus
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 5:00pm
I like it best when the drums are the most prominent instrument.


Posted By: zdunne
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 8:10pm
I chose guitar because my background is in guitar but I tend to appreciate all instruments equally. (I played a baritone euphonium and xylophone in high school though I also know keyboards and some drums/percussion).


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 8:14pm
Originally posted by Ovalotus Ovalotus wrote:

I like it best when the drums are the most prominent instrument.

Tony Williams Lifetime ?


Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 8:34pm

I also like drum player well. Because the musician after the 60's had often shifted to fusion, a reformative drum player had a lot of opinions made not to appear so much for the rhythm of pure Jazz.

Of course, Tony Williams was a reformative drum player. Elvin Jones and Jack DeJonette also do a lot of good performances.

It is felt that a drum player these days when they have been succeeded to is a musician such as Bill Stewart.



Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 8:47pm
I have to mention my fave, Art Blakey minimum fancy stuff but he could do it. Its that rythmn and time. Thats coming from an all out Jazz Mesengers fan

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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 8:51pm

I recalled Art Blakey by the opinion of Matt.Embarrassed

I like album at time when Wayne Shorter was especially on the register.Smile



Posted By: BenevolentBehemoth
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2011 at 8:29am
Trombone or Violin.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by triceratopsoil triceratopsoil wrote:

Vibes are pretty kickin', I'll go with that.

Vibraphone/ xylophone for me.  And Bobby Hutcherson is my fave player.






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