Return to Forever (feat Zappa Plays Zappa) On Tour
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Topic: Return to Forever (feat Zappa Plays Zappa) On Tour
Posted By: darkshade
Subject: Return to Forever (feat Zappa Plays Zappa) On Tour
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 5:17pm
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http://shop.return2forever.com/index.cfm/pid/430547/" rel="nofollow - http://shop.return2forever.com/index.cfm/pid/430547/ Pre-sale has started. I'm excited for this! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:30pm
| Classic RTF and Zappa, its like the 70s all over again. |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:38pm
Indeed. I would use all my savings to go.
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js wrote:Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 21 May 2011 at 1:45am
| There are J-L Ponty and Gambale in RTF line-up this time... I've seen them playing with Al Di Meola few years ago. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: 21 May 2011 at 8:01am
| This is a real strong lineup for RTF. I've seen RTF live with Connors, Klugh and di Meola on guitar but I'm really excited to see Gambale this time. I'm probably in the minority but I prefer Gambale's guitar playing to di Meola's. Zappa Plays Zappa is going to be the cherry on top. Can't wait. |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 21 May 2011 at 9:30pm
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Ah. Japan seems to be included as a schedule of the tour. However, I am pouring money into CD to learn Jazz further now. It might be an act of connecting because of my own enjoyment and JMA. |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 4:27pm
| I'm not going to a show with Zappa Plays Zappa, but I will be seeing RTF on June 28 in Toronto. I waited so long to get my ticket that I'm sitting in the back of the balcony. My brother and I are taking our father with us for his birthday. |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 4:41pm
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^awesome! Enjoy it and tell us how it was! My chances of going to U.S.A. to see them are unlikely, but my bro and I might convince my dad for a ZPZ+RtF date in SF or somewhere in the months of either September or October. (or August) It's still a long shot.
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 6:28pm
| This time tell me if you go to SF. I want you to meet my buddy Ray the record dealer. He's an interesting guy and he has good records to sell too. |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 6:57pm
Indeed will! Sorry for the past time that I didn't tell you, if I had known you were from there!
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 9:06pm
Detroit  lets see if i can get tickets ..................... fingers x
------------- "If you're trying to be hip, be hip." - Miles Davis |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 9:37am
The Toronto show is tonight. Can't wait!!! 
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 3:24pm
RtF and ZPZ??!! Or "simply" RtF?
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 2:17pm
It was just RTF, and that's all I needed. Great show!!! Possibly the best I've been too. I'll try to find the setlist, but they played a good chunk of Romantic Warrior, "Shadow of Lo" from Where Have I Known You Before, Jean Luc Ponty's "Renaissance", "Hymn of The Seventh Galaxy", plus a song by Vertuu among other things. I'll look for some pics as well, though the ushers were telling people to stop taking photos. Unfortunately, the gig was not sold out. Fortunately for us, we got free seat upgrades from the very back of the hall to the middle of the main level.  They injected plenty of humor into the show as well, joking about their age, boy bands (Lenny said RTP is a MAN's band), and teasing the crowd that they were gonna play some Coltrane, and Chick produced an Ipod playing "Impressions". It disappointed me that there was no official RTF merch available, but I picked up a Toronto Jazz festival T-shirt instead. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 2:25pm
When I saw them live three years ago Lenny said same joke
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 7:05pm
Sounds like an awesome show! I'm surprised though, I thought they were playing the entirety of Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy.  Glad you had a great time, I really can't miss this.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 1:14pm
Here's part of School Days from the Toronto show. I didn't film it.  |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 7:04pm
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Glissando and Harmonics. As for the sound of Stanley Clarke, I can feel his individuality only by listening at once. Thank you for putting the video. |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 10:50am
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Here's the Toronto setlist, as posted on their official website: Medieval Overture Senor Mouse Sorceress / Shadow of Lo After the Cosmic Rain Hymn of the 7th Galaxy A Dayride in Oakland Renaissance Romantic Warrior Spain School Days |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2011 at 1:26am
They'll be sunday in Ghent for the Ghent Festival, but apparently without ZPZ >>> Too bad, I'd have made the trip to see both.  ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 2:59pm
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What's the chances of them playing any No Mystery material? Not my favorite album by them or anything, but they seem to overlook this album in their setlists
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 9:44pm
| I was fortunate enough to catch RTFIV last night in Philadelphia at the Mann Performing Arts Center (an outdoor shed venue). There was a good crowd, I'd estimate 4000 to 5000. The show started on time at exactly 7:30 PM with the opening act Zappa Plays Zappa. Basically a Frank Zappa tribute band led by Frank's son Dweezil. They were actually very good. After their performance RTF came out. And from the outset made no bones that they were treating this as a home coming for native Philadelphian Stanley Clarke. The band was in excellent form and sounded great especially the additions of Jean-Luc Ponty on violin and Frank Gambale replacing Al Di Meola on guitar. My disappointments were 1) Frank Gambale's sound was noticeably dialed down, you had to almost strain to listen to his soloing. Possibly done by design as most of the soloing (other than Chick) was done by Ponty. The other disappointment was that it was quite noticeable that Lenny White has either not completely healed from his shoulder surgery of a few years ago or he may be permanently limited in his range of motion. I cannot remember the set list but it represented the four main electric RTF albums. Another regret was that for me they could have added a couple more acoustic songs during the almost two hours they played but who's complaining. |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 5:26pm
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I know without a doubt that RTF is fantastic in concert. I'd expect nothing less. But last night on the local PBS station they showed "Zappa plays Zappa" and I was completely blown away by what I saw and heard. I kinda expected them to come out and perform the more accessible "hits" (Montana and such) but they surprised me by playing some of the more obscure FZ material that I'm not familiar with and the complexity and imagination involved really took me back to the 70s when Frank would turn our heads inside out with his music and leave us begging for more. Awesome musicianship and video production all around. I don't get "wowed" often these days but that's how I felt repeatedly as I watched that concert footage.
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 6:53pm
| ^yes man! Zappa Plays Zappa are undoubtedly extraordinary, check the live DVD! I was blown-away, that convinced me that I have to see them before I die!!! |
Posted By: Moshkito
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 4:33pm
In many ways, ZPZ is better than Frank was ... mostly because Dweezil knows he has to stick to the music really tight and be good, and it shows. It still has some lyrics, but you can tell that some of them are toned down, or the material is toned down to get better access to the audiences.
Also, I think that either RTF or Chick Corea had more than one tour with Frank in the 70's, but we would have to check the annals of history.
And just saw that they will be playing in Eugene on September 23rd and I have already bought the tickeys and will be there ... with my eyes closed ... and appreciate some of the finest music ever made ... in our lifetimes!
I finally get to see ZPZ ... ------------- ... And then one day, the prophet said that you and I would know what is art ... and real! |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 5:30pm
RTF visit Japan and will finish in US by unplugged concerts:
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 6:01pm
I also noticed that later in Novemeber (25, 26 & 27) Chick Corea will also be performing at the Blue Note (NYC) with the original Elektric Band: Chick Corea, keyboards John Patittuci, bass Eric Marienthal, saxophone Dave Weckl, drums Frank Gambale, guitar Definitely worth catching. I actually hope they tour to other cities. I'm not a big fan of Blue Note.
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