The Nu-Jazz Appreciation Thread
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Topic: The Nu-Jazz Appreciation Thread
Posted By: The Truth
Subject: The Nu-Jazz Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 3:58pm
My favorite kind of jazz ever, people!  What's not to love, my friends?! Share your favorite nu-jazz, give recommendations or even just introduce yourself to it. A truly great brand of music. -------------  
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 4:14pm
| Damn! You did it first. Anyway, congratulations for the topic. I like this subgenre of jazz. Maybe is my 2nd (or my 1st?) favorite after jazz rock/fusion. |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 4:16pm
| That Wesseltoft and Schwarz album you listed up there is one of the coolest albums of the year so far. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 4:17pm
Definitely, it's actually the best jazz album from this year I've heard. -------------
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js wrote:Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 4:25pm
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Fantastic album! But the title composition is splendid. I bought it together with Skala before two weeks I think. |
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 6:12pm
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Wesseltoft and Schwarz...........very nice, thank you Truth for enlightning me  I like my Swing ,you know------------- Matt |
The others were nice too, Mathias Eick I thought was a bit slow at the start but it developed beautifully, Prog Geo. I like most ECM material.Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 8:04pm
| I do not own too much a lot of albums of Nu-Jazz. However, I feel that "Solid Ether" of Nils Petter Molvaer is a very good album. |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 1:55am
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Do I need to say EST? ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 2:10am
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I keep my eye on nu jazz development during few last years. What I can say is there are two many vibrant nu jazz markets - Nordic countries and Poland. Norway/Sweden were both lands where nu jazz had it's explosion some time ago and Nordic bands still releases some interesting albums ,but not too often nowadays. Generally Nordic nu jazz mutated to instrumental ambient/jazzy ambient/non-jazzy ambient or more jazz-rock. Polish nu jazz grew up from "yass" movement (unique Polish musical scene in some sense analog to Canterbury but more modern) - partially from Milosc band (where young Leszek Mozdzer started his career). With bands like Robotobibok,Contemporary Noise Sextet/Quartet, Pink Freud, Mikrokolektyw, 100nka,etc,etc Polish modern nu jazz scene is most innovative and interesting now.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 9:13pm
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Hmm, seems I have very little nu-jazz. I do have Jaga Jazzist - "A Livingroom Hush" which I must have listened to about 25 times since I got it last summer. It's a great record. I remember I couldnt get into their recent album for some reason. I think the only other nu-jazz album I have (if this counts) is Squarepusher - "Hard Normal Daddy" which has some good stuff, but a couple tracks I could do without. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 1:33am
| No,Squarepusher isn't nu jazz - and quite different from that genre. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 1:03pm
What would he be considered? (at least for that album) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 1:09pm
| I think that was when Squarepusher was still doing DrumnBass, although a lot of Squarepusher's music sort of defies categories, especially later in his career. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 2:35pm
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oh yea drum n' bass. How could I forget about that genre haha
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 11:26am
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I tend to agree with Bugge Wesseltoft that nu.fusion , (if we want to be pedantic, that sub division of nu.jazz), owes a lot to 70's/80's Miles Davis and Jon Hassle. Digging back a 80's ECM release by Hassle you'll find that distinct jazz groove, jazz dance sound there, predating the likes of Nils Petter Molvaer by over a decade. BTW, let's be careful with overdoing the labels, since at least one of the so called jam bands, e.g. Garaj Mahal quite effortlessly slip through a variety of modern nu.jazz/fusion styles through their recordings.
As for jazz drum'n'bass, check out Wayne Krantz's some time rhythm section, calling themselves Boomish, for instance their album Clearance Sale. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 3:23pm
^ Nice avatar!  All newbies must visit the "Welcome newbies" section, though.   |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2011 at 11:17am
Something my daughter did about 11 years ago - she's now 20 - and it got published in Jazzwise magazine many yearsa go.
I better go introduce myself - but I'm sure some of you know me already!
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2011 at 11:33am
Welcome to the site,Dick
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 12:41pm
Hello Dick, I was wondering when you were going to make your way over to this side of the Innernet ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: Polo
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 11:30am
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I'm loving Sex Mob's Dime Grind Palace. Almost no swingin' ride (stay away, purists) and Kenny Wollesen is so restrained. Feels weird to hear him playing minimalist, old school hip hop-like beats without remembering how mad he was when drumming for Electric Masada.
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That's Kenny G with Miles Davis on my avatar, by the way. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 10:26am
| Well I do enjoy the hell out of Jaga Jazzist...I'll definitely check the others mentioned here, thanks Tanner et al. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 2:16pm
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Decided just to refresh this thread - from very genre's roots. Usually starting point of nu jazz is counting from Norwegian musicians Nils Petter Molvaer and Bugge Wesseltoft first solo albums, but true beginning happened at least 15 years before. Norwegian jazz veterans bassist Arild Andersen and drummer Jon Christensen played together (alongside young sax player Jan Garbarek) in George Russell European projects, later - with Jan Garbarek and/or Keith Jarrett in his European quartet. As it's known this Jarrtett's project gave the birth to post bop and smooth jazz crossover, later named contemporary jazz. Garbarek turned solo towards folklore-based music (world fusion). Andersen and Christensen in 1982-83 were searching in new direction and founded "Masqualero" with few young generation Norwegian musicians (one of them was trumpeter Nils Petter Molvaer). New band's music combined early contemporary jazz , Nordic folk, some European classics tradition and rock energy (and simplicity). Nu jazz was born. From 1983 to 1991 Masqualero recorded four albums, they generally weren't noticed and each member just went his own way. In 1995 Molvaer released avant-garde jazz album with American percussionist Robyn Schulkowski and only in 1997 he released his solo debut "Khmer" , cornerstone of nu jazz.
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 4:26pm
| Some other Proto-Nu Jazz would include Miles' "He Loved Him Madly" as well as Eno's ambient works where he used pre-existing Brand X tracks to build ambient groove pieces. Eno was also a fan of the previously mentioned Miles track also. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 4:47pm
You mentioned Eno right in time - last few days I listen to new Eivind Aarset album (very interesting one!) thinking what the direction nu jazz got here. Ambient-jazz? Guitarist Eivind Aarset is Molvaers collaborator from his very first albums, but releases solo albums regularly as well. Terje Rypdal's influenced, his guitar often doesn't sound as guitar at all. Newest album is step... somewhere, is it still jazz? Ambient-jazz- that came to mind just yesterday  |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 5:28pm
| Bill Laswell and Nicky Skopeletis are proto nu-jazzers too. Its interesting to notice that some of Laswell's earliest studio work was backing Eno. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 4:00pm
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Anyway, next step is much better known, from Nils Petter Molvaer's solo debut "Khmer" nu jazz became a jazz sub-genre category |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2012 at 5:38am
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At the same time another Norwegian musician pianist Bugge Wesseltoft released his "New Conceptions Of Jazz": |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2012 at 7:16am
| Another important pre-Nu Jazz album would be Soft Machine's "3rd" where Terry Riley influenced electronics mix with open-ended modal beatnik jazz jams. |