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Topic: Top Five Live CutsPosted By: dreadpirateroberts
Subject: Top Five Live Cuts
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 9:30am
All right. How about a list of your top 5 (or more if you wish) live takes?
Feel free to jump around and in and out of genres, of course! I'm quite interested, as I just finished listening to a live version of Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay and it tears the house down. Sometimes the live versions of songs are simply better, or maybe the band tries a different tempo, or the solos have more passion, whatever it is, there's something about it.
So, what are yours? I'll update this post with my 5 later, snowed under at the moment but wanted to kick things off while I had a couple of minutes.
UPDATE:
Take Five by Brubeck, from the Essential Jazz (Song) compilation. A snappier tempo, and a bit of extended soloing. Red Clay by Freddie Hubbard, from the Red Clay reissue. A harder, more vital cut. And they're having a blast playing it. Winter in America by Gil Scott-Heron and Brian Jackson, from the Winter in America reissue. Wider palette of instruments and they're looser.
Sagg Shootin His Arrow by Jimmy Smith. Just great to hear the guitar and organ together in an almost rock, funk, fusion setting, stretching out the song nicely.
Man of Leo by Go (Stomu Yamash'ta) which has some superior soloing from Di Meola especially.
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Replies: Posted By: js
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 11:13am
The first album that comes to my mind is Miles' "At Fillmore (Fillmore East)", not be confused with the lesser "Black Beauty (Fillmore West)".
On the Fillmore East album, Miles and his band play the material from Bitches Brew, but with a lot more understanding of what they want from it. Far more aggressive, focused and avant-garde than Brew, its an amazing record that contains some oft criticized keyboard "battles" between Corea and Jarret. Although some critics describe their assault as indulgent, I think it reflects the nature early 70s fusion when being indulgent was OK and even encouraged. In today's world it can sound a bit dated, but what they do with the Brew material is pretty incredible.
I know that isn't five, but that is what's hitting me right now. An old friend of mine had some live Charlie Parker recordings that just blow away a lot of studio work I have heard from him, unfortunately I was young and I can not recall the names of those recordings, but I hope to hook up with them again someday.
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 1:03pm
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 1:20pm
^ thanks for reminding me, that first VSOP album is incredible, three of Herbie's best bands; the Miles quintet (with Hubbard replacing Miles), The Sextet and The Headhunters all playing their ass off in separate performances on the same day.
Some of my bop leaning friends thought the Quintet performances were kind of heavy handed and over the edge (ie rockish) but its still a fun energetic performance.
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2011 at 9:27am
js wrote:
The first album that comes to my mind is Miles' "At Fillmore (Fillmore East)", not be confused with the lesser "Black Beauty (Fillmore West)".
On the Fillmore East album, Miles and his band play the material from Bitches Brew, but with a lot more understanding of what they want from it. Far more aggressive, focused and avant-garde than Brew, its an amazing record that contains some oft criticized keyboard "battles" between Corea and Jarret. Although some critics describe their assault as indulgent, I think it reflects the nature early 70s fusion when being indulgent was OK and even encouraged. In today's world it can sound a bit dated, but what they do with the Brew material is pretty incredible.
I know that isn't five, but that is what's hitting me right now. An old friend of mine had some live Charlie Parker recordings that just blow away a lot of studio work I have heard from him, unfortunately I was young and I can not recall the names of those recordings, but I hope to hook up with them again someday.
Interested to hear the 'East' album actually, as I have Black Beauty and remember finding myself feeling like something lacked, so the east would be great, thank you John
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2011 at 9:29am
That live version of 'Hang Up your Hang Ups' is great too, thanks dwill123
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2011 at 10:46am
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
That live version of 'Hang Up your Hang Ups' is great too, thanks dwill123
Here's the second song "Spider" from that album side (same group of musicians):
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 4:26am
While thinking about the five, here's a few that immediately flashup:
Les Paul/Nat King Coles duo on Blues ex. Jazz At The Philharmonic 1944
Brecker/Pastorius:Dry Cleaner fro Des Moines (Joni Mitchell's Shadows & Light - alas the DVD of this is an arthouse f***-up)
Joe Morello:Castillian Drums:(ex.Dave Brubeck QuartetCarnegie Hall Live) - about the only drum solo I can now listen to and still get pleasure each time) - in fact Blue Rondo Ala Turka from the same set is a favourite (but I want to mix it for a top five)
Holdsworth/Pasqua: Fred (ex. Blues For Tony) - Fred (aka Kinder) is my favourite Holdsworth, so how can I resist?
But a fifth I have to think about with the following coming to mind:
Shakti live,
Bugge Wesseltoft with John Schofield guesting,
Soft Machine'sThird;
MIles Davis off We Want Miles or several others,
Nucleus'sSnakehips Dream esp the rhyhm guitar of Chris Spedding (ex. Hemispheres)
................ the list may be huge,
Posted By: stuccohomes
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2011 at 6:03pm
This is also subject to change:
1. Directions in Music: Live at Massey Hall - Michael Brecker
2. Twins - Jaco Pastorius
3. Miles in Tokyo - Miles Davis
4. Children of the Night - Hal Galper
5. Smokin at the Half Note - Wes Montgomery
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2011 at 6:11pm
What's on "Miles in Tokyo" ?
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 2:17am
Cool, some stuff I've not come across before, very swell indeed
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 3:03am
js wrote:
The first album that comes to my mind is Miles' "At Fillmore (Fillmore East)", not be confused with the lesser "Black Beauty (Fillmore West)".
On the Fillmore East album, Miles and his band play the material from Bitches Brew, but with a lot more understanding of what they want from it. Far more aggressive, focused and avant-garde than Brew, its an amazing record that contains some oft criticized keyboard "battles" between Corea and Jarret. Although some critics describe their assault as indulgent, I think it reflects the nature early 70s fusion when being indulgent was OK and even encouraged. In today's world it can sound a bit dated, but what they do with the Brew material is pretty incredible.
I know that isn't five, but that is what's hitting me right now. An old friend of mine had some live Charlie Parker recordings that just blow away a lot of studio work I have heard from him, unfortunately I was young and I can not recall the names of those recordings, but I hope to hook up with them again someday.
Have you heard the Fillmore East album "It's About That Time", which came out a few years ago? It has similar lineup to the other 2 Fillmore albums, except Wayne Shorter was still in the band. I was familiar with Black Beauty and Fillmore East; and they're good. But there was something about Shorter being there, the performances were absolutely ferocious. I'm 99% sure that It's About That Time is from March 1970, At Fillmore is from April 1970, and Black Beauty is from June 1970
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2011 at 7:53am
Here's part of the 'Red Clay' take that I put in my list - everyone is playing better and soloing better and feeding off each other better than the studio cut. Safe to say I like it!
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 7:21am
This is close to the live version of Take Five that I really like
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 1:18pm
lol I thought this was a new thread.
There are so many good live cuts, I can't narrow it down to only 5.
Five Peace Band - "Raju" and "In A Silent Way" are pretty sweet
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 6:46pm
I 're-found' it after realising that I hadn't finished uploading some videos to flesh out my own list
Five Peace Band - cool, will check out those versions for sure
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 11:13pm
darkshade wrote:
lol I thought this was a new thread.
There are so many good live cuts, I can't narrow it down to only 5
I completely overlooked this topic, too. Probably Mike may enjoy this. This quality is overwhelming while being outdoor live broadcasting.
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 12:52am
^ I listened to the studio version of that song yesterday. This version is very good though.
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 1:08am
Yes.IhaveIllicit, too, butthisliveversionis cool.
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2012 at 8:12pm
A very high quality live recording there. Drummer is a machine, huh?
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2012 at 8:32pm
Yes.KirkCovingtonisalways energetic. The video which Iputwillhave a factorsuch asrockthanjazz/fusion.
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Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2012 at 10:00pm
Any thing from Dark Magus or the Cellar Door stuff is is good from Miles.
Also Mahalia Jackson Singing at Newport 1959 I believe the year, it's on that Jazz on a Summer's Day film, Goose Bump City on that one. Louise Armstrong also delivers some killer trumpet work on that DVD.
One night with Blue Note DVD, Freddie Hubbard on Cantaloupe Island, he nearly blows the building down. Jackie Mclean also has a solo on "Appointment in Ghana" that is insane. that whole DVD is stellar, most of the guys were way past their Prime, but somehow they pushed each other to great heights, I also love the Cecil Taylor Piano Solo, this was from 1985.
I have also been a big fan of any of the Buddy Rich Big Band live performances, even some of his from the mid 80's are great, Steve Marcus, one of Fathers of Jazz Rock you never hear about, plays some mean tenor and soprano sax on many of the late 70's early 80' albums, I highly recommend the Jazz Icons Buddy Rich Release, and the 2 DVD's, Channel 1 suite and The lost Tapes, One thing about the last 2 mentioned, It is evident even 2 years before Rich's death, he was never past HIS prime.
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2012 at 1:38am
This one? Yeah, it's pretty darn good - nice clear sound too
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Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2012 at 3:11pm
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
This one? Yeah, it's pretty darn good - nice clear sound too
Yeah and EMI knows it too, your video is blocked in the U.S. on copyright grounds.Either way, I highly recommend that DVD to everyone.
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2012 at 9:02pm
Yeah, ace DVD. Hmm, not blocked in Australia, so I guess just Matt & I can watch it! But I agree, worth ordering that DVD
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Posted By: MilesBeyond
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 8:24pm
I am an unabashed fanboy of Smokin at the Half Note. If you want to hear possibly the best music ever produced without horns, this is it.
Complete Jazz at Massey Hall has some great stuff too, despite the quality. The recordings of Hot House, Salt Peanuts, All the Things You Are and Night in Tunisia stand out.
I first heard it on some bizarre Coltrane live recording I bought at a used record shop which doesn't show up on any of his discographies and I'm convinced it's some sort of bootleg. It made it's way to Youtube, though. Quality is mediocre but the raw energy of that cut... Man, it's something else.
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 10:51pm
^ Nice version indeed. I often forget how prominently suits feature in live jazz. Good stuff
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