Maybe free jazz?
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Topic: Maybe free jazz?
Posted By: The_Jester
Subject: Maybe free jazz?
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2011 at 8:33pm
| I think that free jazz is missing on this website. It's a part of jazz music and it's really good. |
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2011 at 8:37pm
| It's here, it's part of Avant-Garde Jazz. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 2:57am
Yeah, understood and I largely agree that they should be kept together , but actually the search for Free Jazz or Free Form Jazz sould be immediately gratified by finding it . Not having the Free Jazz name in the genre list is puzzling, IMHO
Sooooooo, I'd propose that Avant-Garde genre be renamed Avant-garde & free=form jazz ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... 
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Abraxas wrote:Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 4:46am
Just one observation, there's free-jazz and free-form (music), not sure what free-form jazz is, in that case.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 7:00am
About two years ago, I would've agreed with you, but more recently I've seen/read both actually, but don't ask me where, though! ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 7:03pm
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lol, you didn't look very hard... Personally, I prefer it to be just avant-garde jazz, I don't like long subgenre names and it's not hard to figure out that free jazz is under avant-garde jazz. People sometimes make a technical distinction between avant-garde jazz is primarily composed, while free jazz is primarily improved, but I think that really doesn't matter. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 7:17pm
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Posted By: Polo
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 7:20pm
Beat me to it. ------------- 
That's Kenny G with Miles Davis on my avatar, by the way. |
Posted By: andyman1125
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 7:22pm
That sounded like Latin Fusion. ------------- 
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 8:16pm
^indeed, the music is not free jazz at all, that's a pity. But still, I thought the same thing: was going to put the video, but was too lazy. 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 3:36am
The problem is that avant-garde is a little too broad for its own good>> It includes the Impulse! label's New Thing, in which Alice Coltrane is thrown in...
But Alice is way too far away to be included in free-jazz ala Keith Tippett or Peter Brotzman ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:33pm
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I'm not very familiar with Alice Coltrane's discography, but I do know enough that I know what you mean, she's a lot less harsh than Peter Brotzmann. But everything I've ever read about her regards her as avant-garde jazz, and there's also a pretty big difference between EST and Jaga Jazzist in Nu Jazz...
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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:47pm
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olol
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Posted By: seyo
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 6:22am
| Not an expert in free jazz, but from the linguistic and logical standpoint and in order to make "free jazz" tag visible, what do you think to add "Avant-Garde Jazz/Free Jazz" or "Avant-Garde/Free Jazz" as a title of sub-genre? |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 6:45am
| Thanks for the suggestion, but that has already been brought up. Free jazz is a subset of AG, as explained in our definition, so we will probably keep it that way. |
Posted By: seyo
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 8:21am
| Good. :) |