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Havin' a breather and gonna talk to my wife while I whack a jazz album on
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I've been reading Ted Gioia's history of jazz and its interesting how Latin and African rhythms intersect throughout history, starting with the North African invasion of Spain and so on.
The earliest jazz musicians in New Orleans were supposedly influenced by Mexican calvary band etc. It would seem the Latin and African rhythms are already tangled together long before you get to Afro-Cuban jazz. Afro-Cuban jazz is just more synthesis of previous synthesises
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congo bongo!!!
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I have to agree, the formal dances are not my thing either, I'm thinking I'm a mambo man
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Another Italian friend told me when they immigrated to Australia the other choice to where they were going was Argentina but she arrived here when she was two. I have known her since I was fourteen as she is my best mates wife. He was similar but came from Malta as a baby and cannot remember his homeland but then again he does not seem that interested when over the years I have asked him about it. More concerned with the footy
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^ very Spanish, and I think I hear some similarities to the Tango?
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Does it get anymore older. Recorded music was barely of the ground and here in 1914 with troubadour Maria Teresa Vera, Rafael Zequeira and some guitar help from the composer Manuel Corona who appeared on many of her recordings assisting early days as Rafael Zequeira did not play guitar but only sang vocals. They recorded 193 titles together until he passed away in 1924.
One of her first but not the very first recording from her. That was "Tere" with "Vela" on the old flip. 1914 as well
Trova is the style, you can say it is early Son but this is country/rural Cuban music delivered in that classic accoustic style.
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Based on the samples provided, I'm guessing that "El Manisero" is based on Guaracha rhythms, not Son.
Correct?
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You go Matt, I'll check all these later, I have young students to deal with now.
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Next is the "Cha Cha Cha' with this being the first actually recorded in Cuba 1953. Ninon Mondejar was the leader of Orquesta America and actually The Cha Cha Cha is from a Danzon formula with a rythmn change and boy did it take off. The Cha Cha Cha is known as classic Latin music today as soon as the sound is heard. The video lists it as a Charanga which is what the orquestra played previously with a more French leaning but this is Cha Cha Cha number 1. The actual name of the tune is "La Verde Palma"
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Perez Prado was the man who came up with 'The Mambo" He originally replaced Anselmo Sacasas on piano in the early forties in Casino De la Playa. He hit the rythmn by doodling on the piano so the story goes but there were many late night Jam sessions with the band.
Perez's own words "Keep it clean a and punchy, with shouting brass and diamond bright percussion" and another term he used was "The Mambo was Afro-Cuban rhythmns with a dash of American Swing"
Mambo No. 5 originally recorded in Cuba between 1947 and 1949. This one is a little bit later but still very close
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This one is a Guaracha and there is no better person to sing them than the great Celia Cruz and great really is an understatement for Celia, she could sing with one fabulous powerful voice, but here it is early days and this recording was done in Cuba betweeen 1951 to 53 with La Sonora Matancera.
Celia's music is not for sale in Cuba due to political rubbish.
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I will be listing the definitions for the rythmn and lyrics in another thread soon. I will admit I have not started ( a little last night) but just starting to organise but if I know as the samples come up I will list what they are. As the music becomes more contempary it gets a lot harder and actually impossible to list many as they are a mix at times of many or Western influence's permeate.
One other note it is not just the timing or construction but it is the lyrical content which picks what they as in a "Pregon" which is actually named after street sellers crys to sell or an announcement and usually has a Son or Guaracha structure for the rythmn.
Talking about Pregon's, this one is the great Antonio Machin doing the most famous of them all
"El Manisero" ( The Peanut Vendor). this one is is live but I have no idea where from but the original was recorded 1930 in New York. Could even be Spain because that is where he finished up at the end.
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