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seyo
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Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 8:21am |
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Good. :)
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js
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Thanks for the suggestion, but that has already been brought up. Free jazz is a subset of AG, as explained in our definition, so we will probably keep it that way.
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seyo
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Not an expert in free jazz, but from the linguistic and logical standpoint and in order to make "free jazz" tag visible, what do you think to add "Avant-Garde Jazz/Free Jazz" or "Avant-Garde/Free Jazz" as a title of sub-genre?
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triceratopsoil
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olol
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Henry Plainview
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I'm not very familiar with Alice Coltrane's discography, but I do know enough that I know what you mean, she's a lot less harsh than Peter Brotzmann. But everything I've ever read about her regards her as avant-garde jazz, and there's also a pretty big difference between EST and Jaga Jazzist in Nu Jazz...
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Sean Trane
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The problem is that avant-garde is a little too broad for its own good>> It includes the Impulse! label's New Thing, in which Alice Coltrane is thrown in...
But Alice is way too far away to be included in free-jazz ala Keith Tippett or Peter Brotzman
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Abraxas
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^indeed, the music is not free jazz at all, that's a pity. But still, I thought the same thing: was going to put the video, but was too lazy.
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andyman1125
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That sounded like Latin Fusion.
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Polo
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Beat me to it. |
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That's Kenny G with Miles Davis on my avatar, by the way. |
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The Truth
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Henry Plainview
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lol, you didn't look very hard...
Personally, I prefer it to be just avant-garde jazz, I don't like long subgenre names and it's not hard to figure out that free jazz is under avant-garde jazz. People sometimes make a technical distinction between avant-garde jazz is primarily composed, while free jazz is primarily improved, but I think that really doesn't matter. |
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Sean Trane
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About two years ago, I would've agreed with you, but more recently I've seen/read both actually, but don't ask me where, though! Edited by Sean Trane - 11 Aug 2011 at 7:10am |
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Ricochet
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Just one observation, there's free-jazz and free-form (music), not sure what free-form jazz is, in that case. |
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Sean Trane
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Yeah, understood and I largely agree that they should be kept together , but actually the search for Free Jazz or Free Form Jazz sould be immediately gratified by finding it . Not having the Free Jazz name in the genre list is puzzling, IMHO
Sooooooo, I'd propose that Avant-Garde genre be renamed Avant-garde & free=form jazz
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Abraxas
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It's here, it's part of Avant-Garde Jazz.
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I think that free jazz is missing on this website. It's a part of jazz music and it's really good.
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