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Part I

Post Bop is a modern jazz style that continues the distinguishing characteristics that separate jazz from the world of pop and rock; swing rhythm and extended harmonies (9th chords 11ths, altered chords, etc). Post Bop grew out of the Hard Bop genre during the early to mid 60s as musicians such as Bill Evans, Wayne Shorter, and Herbie Hancock began to introduce more extended harmonies, abstract structures and looser rhythms in their playing and compositions. When Hancock and Shorter joined Miles Davis’ quintet in the mid-60s, that group became the perfect vehicle for extending the boundaries of what could happen in a Post Bop format. The Miles Davis Quintet albums, "Nefertiti" and "Sorcer", continue to be pinnacles of Post Bop composition and performance. Some styles of free modal jazz, such as Coltrane's "A Love Supreme", are also part of the Post Bop sound. Sometimes referred to as 'spiritual jazz', this style has made a comeback with young musicians, especially in London and Los Angeles.

While still in its infancy, Post Bop was pushed off the radar during the 70s as many of its early proponents pursued the far more lucrative fields of fusion and smooth jazz. As the fusion fad began to fade, musicians began to tire of three chord vamps and the limitations of rock/pop rhythms and yearned to work with sophisticated chord changes and jazz rhythms again. The stage was set in the early 80s for the “young lion” movement and a return to both Post Bop and Hard Bop for a lot of young musicians and their fan base.

Today’s Post Bop covers a wide variety, from radio friendly to borderline avant-garde, and it’s a genre that is still ripe for more exploration. Generally speaking, the difference between Post Bop and Hard Bop is that Hard Bop carries a stronger trace of the blues and a more straight forward driving rhythm, but when you are trying to analyze certain artists or pieces of music, that difference is not always clear. Much of Branford Marsalis's music is a good example of jazz that sits right between post and hard bop. With some music, arguing whether it is Post Bop or Hard Bop becomes pointless, since depending on perspective, either genre can be seen as a subset of the other. Although we use the genre term Post Bop to tag the music described above, in a more generic sense, post bop can be the name of any swing based jazz music created after the passing of the be-bop era.

Part 2 - Post Bop in the New Century

As jazz continues to grow and develop, the worlds of modern fusion and post bop have grown closer together as many musicians; such as Dave Douglas, Craig Taborn, Greg Osby and others, freely mix elements into new hybrids.

At JMA, the distinction between Fusion and Post Bop continues to be that distinctive African syncopation known as "swing". Generally Post Bop should swing, while Fusion, quite often does not. What has changed, as we move further into the 21st century, is the way in which modern drummers are 'swinging'. Inventive drummers such as Jeff "Tain" Watts, Rudy Roystan and others are no longer putting the swing beat solely on the ride cymbal. Instead, they are liable to use any, or all pieces of the drum set at once, while they swing the beat. Also, the swing feel itself is often a bit disguised in modern jazz, it may not be so obvious, and the drummer may move in and out of swing feel, sometimes even within one phrase.

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KENNY BARRON Beyond This Place

Album · 2024 · Post Bop
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Kenny Barron’s “Beyond This Place” is the real deal class in its modern jazz storytelling. The album features various ensembles showcasing Barron’s ability to shape harmonic landscapes and foster musical interactions. Released on May 10, 2024, by Artwork / PIAS, the album offers a mix of styles that speaks to Barron’s enduring artistry and piano expression.

The album opens with Barron’s elegant solo piano introduction, setting the mood for “The Nearness of You.” The ensemble’s performance is steeped in the warmth of the jazz tradition. Saxophonist Immanuel Wilkins’ rendition of the melody is expressive. Kiyoshi Kitagawa’s bass and Johnathan Blake’s drums enter, the bridge gains momentum, with Wilkins’ upper-register phrasing soaring above the rhythmic support. Barron’s solo captures a rich chemistry between the piano, bass, and drums, weaving agile melodic lines that balance grace and activity.

“Scratch” is an up-tempo swing that kicks off with Kitagawa and Blake locking in to create the pocket. Nelson, Wilkins, and Barron present the angular melody with precision, forming a cohesive front line. The solo section unfolds as a lively conversation, where the musicians pass the improvisational baton with a sense of playful interplay. Steve Nelson’s vibraphone solo is striking in its blending of rhythmic drive with vivid harmonic colors. Barron’s solo contrasts movement and stillness, flowing fluidly yet embracing moments of rugged phrasing that add rhythmic depth.

With its straight-eighth feel and subtle Latin undertones, “Innocence” paints a beautiful sonic portrait. The interplay between piano, vibraphone, and alto saxophone casts an ethereal hue over the flowing melody. Blake’s drumming is expressive and anchors the piece with a groove that propels yet never overpowers. Barron’s solo is a dazzling showcase of wide, multi-octave arpeggios that provide energy and uplift, a testament to his boundless technique and creativity.

“Blues on Stratford Road” is a medium-swing tune laced with New Orleans overtones. Nelson’s solo is a standout moment, brimming with passion and rich note choices that tell their story. The ensemble captures the essence of a hard-swinging style that mixes the swing of a gospel celebratory spirit.

“Tragic Magic” is a hard-bop gem defined by its driving swing feel, sharp ensemble hits, and well-crafted form. Wilkins’ solo exemplifies his ability to blend modern intervallic ideas with bebop-inspired embellishments, showcasing his expressive and technically fluid approach.

A spirited trio excursion of “Softly As in a Morning Sunrise” highlights Barron’s genius in a pared-down setting. His approach layers a moving melodic line in the lower register, intricate harmonic movement in the midrange, and fluid, expressive solo lines in the upper register. The trio’s synergy is palpable, with Blake’s drumming adding dynamic support and textural variety.

“Beyond This Place” captures Kenny Barron balancing introspection and exuberance across a thoughtfully curated set. Each ensemble has a defined cohesion that elevates the recording, making it a testament to Barron’s legacy as a consummate bandleader and performer.

ERIC JACOBSON / WE SIX Heading Home

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Chicago-based trumpeter Eric Jacobson's third album as a leader, "Heading Home," sounds right out of the 1970s mainstream jazz scene, the nineties post-bop revival scene, or, simpler, it just sounds like one timeless classic album of mainstream jazz.

Eric leads an acoustic quintet of high-probe musicians, playing quite conservative, but extremely professional post-bop, with a lot of swing. Cross-generation band combines seasoned pianist Bruce Barth, veteran drummer George Fludas, mid-generation tenor Geof Bradfield, and session bassist Dennis Carroll.

Eight pieces, all Jacobson's originals, sound as if they come from inventive and enthusiastic post-bop times of the early 70s. There is a lot of light, optimism, and elegance in the album's music. Each composition has a different rhythm, from the up-tempo opener "Survival" to the lyrical ballade "My Love for Amy" to the swinging danceable "Heading Home".

Listeners usually expect quality mainstream jazz from Origin label's recordings. Still Eric Jacobson's "Heading Home" is a bit special one - very well played and edited, it is an example of how once great traditional post-bop can sound actual and really attractive today. Can be recommended for jazz purists and modern jazz haters, as well as for everyone who simply loves Jazz.

ERIC BELL Vulnerability

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“Vulnerability” is the debut album from keyboardist Eric Bell, but he is hardly a new comer. Eric has been working as a composer, arranger and instrumentalist for some top names, including Bernard Purdie, Jeff Hamilton and Marvin Smitty Smith. He also works as a composer and arranger for Disneyland’s Phat Cat Swingers. It took Eric only three years to earn his bachelors degree in jazz piano performance at Cal State Long Beach, and after he graduated he was hired as a teacher. “Vulnerability” is based around Eric’s post bop piano trio, but on several tracks they branch out into electronic fusion territory and include guest musicians as well.

Album opener, “Start”, starts things off ambitiously with some free jazz battles backed by broad electronic soundscapes for a huge cinematic texture. From here Eric continues the drama with an unusual version of “The Way You Look Tonight’ that continues the big cinematic approach. Wayne Shorter’s “Witch Hunt” is in a more traditional piano trio format, but the band experiments with the tune by varying the tempo every time they repeat it’s structure. “Fighting the Sun” brings on Dean Arber for some fusion style electric guitar shreds and title track, “Vulnerability” is a gospel flavored art pop ballad with Eric Hirschhorn on saxophone. The album closes with a couple hard bop swingers with “Beautiful Love” being particularly energetic.

“Vulnerability” is a remarkable debut album and the future looks bright for Eric. His jazz chops are impressive, but he is also adept at a broad range of musical styles and large scale arrangements. Bell can thunder like McCoy Tyner, get artsy melodic like Brad Mehldau and down home funky like Les McCann.

MILES DAVIS Nefertiti

Album · 1967 · Post Bop
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To be sure, this has to be one of the most talented lineups ever in jazz history--and despite Miles' collaborators being in their young 20s and most definitely showing signs of some immaturity, the greatest innovation occurring here is with Tony Williams' drumming.

1. "Nefertiti" (7:52) a rather dull and slightly melodic lead song with Miles and Wayne up front has some rather adventurous performances from Herbie Hancock and, especially, the dynamic Tony Williams. (13.25/15)

2. "Fall" (6:39) another pleasant, melodic song in which the musicians are operating more nearly on the same wavelength--until fourth minute, that is, when Tony begins to go off into his own world, rhythmically, beneath Herbie's piano solo, but then he backs off and gets very quiet during Wayne's following solo and what follows. Interesting! (8.875/10)

3. "Hand Jive" (8:54) a much more dynamic song construct with Ron Carter walking all over his upright double bass while Tony Williams flies around his cymbals and toms. There is an odd, subtle shift in tempo in the third minute that I do not think is intentional but obviously not considered significant enough to correct or redo--and Ron Carter is not always "in the pocket" (at least not according to these amateur ears), but the song certainly displays the skills of all of the band members, with a considerable amount of time given to Wayne Shorter's solo in the middle. When Herbie is next given his turn, he seems a bit lost at first, but, after he gets warmed up, he starts to move better. Maybe everybody's just a little overwhelmed or intimidated by Tony's creativity (and Ron's hot-and-cold conformity to the "pocket"). (17.5/20)

4. "Madness "(7:31) more of the same as the previous song with Ron's fast walking and Tony's cymbal play providing the bulk of support beneath one of Miles' more dynamic and passionate solos on the album. The trio seem quite entrained. Then Wayne is given the nod to take over from Miles. He's not quite as dynamic but very impressive for his softer, breathy notes. When it comes time for Herbie's turn, everybody nearly cuts out, with only Ron and Tony remaining beneath part time, not flying around the fretboard and cymbal like they were. But then they return to their earlier form as Herbie heats up, though not quite as synched as they were with Miles--which may have something to do with Herbie's less smooth, less-melodic approach. And then they all come back together ever-so briefly before bringing the song to a quick close. (13.375/15)

5. "Riot" (3:04) Same cymbal play from Tony while Ron machine guns around the upper registers of his bass and Herbie plays a lot of chords beneath Wayne's initial lead. Then Miles is there, too. It's nice to hear the whole band working together (and Tony does get a little more active as the song develops). (8.875/10)

6. "Pinocchio" (5:08) a song that feels more like standard or old Miles bebop or hard bop. Opening with the whole rhythm section behind Wayne and Miles, Ron and Tony become more active as the song develops, something that is more noticeable during Wayne's solo (as Miles and Herbie check out). Tony really picks it up here, even when Miles and Wayne return to recapitulate the main melody. Then Herbie gets his solo. It's good, probably the best on the album, but then its over and the band pulls together to close. Very tight, "standard" jazz tune. (8.875/10)

Total Time 39:08

I think this album is most significant for confirming how much of a force drummer Tony Williams is (and is going to be). As impressive as Tony is (and Miles and Wayne, as well), I think Herbie Hancock and Ron Carter are showing how much growth they have yet to achieve--especially to be able to achieve the moment they are called upon.

B/four stars; an excellent album for gaining insight into the genius of some of Jazz-Rock Fusion founders and all-stars--especially the phenom that was drummer Tony Williams.

WAYNE SHORTER Speak No Evil

Album · 1966 · Post Bop
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I really dig this album. With the exception of the second song, "Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum" I consider each one of these songs to be supreme examples of the sublime, melodic jazz that bridged jazz's Kind of Blue and My Favorite Things era with the melodic beauty of albums like Bill Evans' Conversations with Myself and Vince Guaradli's A Charlie Brown Christmas (all for being very important, seminal albums for me). Also, I don't really know why, but I've never heard MIles Davis' trumpet as an engaging sound-maker, but I've always had an easy and very positive connection with the playing of Freddie Hubbard. Though I've had a lifelong love-hate relationship with Ron Carter's styles of bass playing, I've always respected it. Same for Herbie: his journey deep into the realms of electronic sounds and effects were never as engaging or alluring for me as his exquisite piano playing. And Elvin Jones is among the very best to every sit behind a kit. The most surprising thing about this album is how much I love the compositions: especially Wayne's amazing "touch" with creating long, drawn-out, BEAUTIFUL melodies. (Like Miles' trumpet play, Wayne's sax play within the Weather Report discography have never impressed or engaged me.) This combo makes for such a great unit, it's no wonder that three-fifths of them transferred so easily (so telepathically) into Miles' "Second Great Quintet" (right after the recording of this album!)

Without question this is a five star album of incredible music.

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